Jan begins with remote viewing and telepathic communication to
initiate the contact and prepare for Luanda to come in...
Jan:
He's just finishing what he's doing. Finishing his jigsaw. (Laughter) He
has some sort of cubes that he's looking at.
Atasha: What does
he look like?
Jan: A typical Grey. But I find him quite
attractive. He's small - three and a half feet tall. He has expression -
he tries very hard to give expression. A lot of people think they're
expressionless and deadpan. But he does make an effort. His eyes are
dark but there's life in them. They're not lifeless. Got a twinkle.
(Her voice begins to fade as if she is drifting into a
comfortable sleep. Long pause as she moves deeper into trance state.
Luanda then comes through. It is a full-body trance channelling. He
speaks through Jan in a delicate, and at times faint, tone. His speech
is quite slow with frequent pauses. There is very little overt emotion,
and what there is, is very subtly expressed - but the feeling is one of
lightness rather than coldness. The accent is not at all like Jan's
usual North country speech, and his manners of speech remain consistent
throughout)
Luanda: Jonathan! Hello. Are you well?
Jonathan: This is Atasha.
Luanda: Hello, hello. Good,
good.
Jonathan: How are you?
Luanda: I'm fine.
(Luanda looks at the position Jan's body is in - she is leaning
well back in a semi-reclining position)
Luanda: I'm lying.
Jonathan: Hm?
Luanda: (Indicates the body position) I'm
lying.
Jonathan: Have you seen Glastonbury?
Luanda: Not
on the ground, no. Have you anything to ask me?
Jonathan:
Perhaps Atasha has.
Atasha: Umm....
Luanda: How are you?
Atasha: I'm all right, thanks. Where are you at the moment?
Where is your ship?
Luanda: It is in your dimension. I would say
directly overhead. Miles.
Jonathan: Is it a small ship?
Luanda: I have been on mother.
Jonathan: The mothership.
In our dimension?
Luanda: Yes.
Jonathan: So we can see
it?
Luanda: Yes.
Atasha: I've been seeing little lights
moving around the sky lately and been wondering what they are.
Satellites or ships - what do you think?
Luanda: Could be all.
All kinds. I suppose there is probably more happening at the moment.
Atasha: What is happening?
Luanda: There are more of us
being allowed to observe and interact. With permission. We are very
excited.
Atasha: Why are you being allowed to interact more now?
Luanda: Because the time is getting closer for more knowledge.
(A jet flies by - Luanda looks up and stops talking)
Luanda: Just have to be aware of what is going on.
(Long
pause)
Luanda: More people are asking more questions, which
gives us the opportunity to give some more answers. And we have to be
invited. So even a passing thought is an invitation. And there are more
passing thoughts.
Jonathan: I hear that generally people are
talking more about spacecraft seen in the skies. It seems to be becoming
more normal.
Atasha: You say you're in this dimension now. Are
you always in this dimension?
Luanda: No. We are generally not
in this dimension. We only come here briefly. We are more relaxed in
3.5, out of sight. Although we do encounter some of your crafts in that
dimension too - but we can just go a little higher and thus avoid
detection. The crafts are - well, they are inferior.
Atasha: Are
you moving towards more contact with people? Is that the idea?
Luanda: Yes.
Atasha: How will this contact happen? In
our present dimension? Or will our dimension get higher, or what? How
will the contact be sustained?
Luanda: We are trying to contact
as many people in this dimension. These will be the forerunners. There
will be more people contacted as the dimension begins to shift - which
will be very gradual. So as the dimension shifts we will be able to
contact more people. And then when it shifts we will be all as one.
Atasha: How long will it take for the dimensions to shift? For
us to move toward a higher dimension?
Luanda: It is beginning
now. It has been beginning.
Jonathan: What about the date 2012
as the beginning of the New Age, according to the ancient Mayan and
Egyptian calendars?
Luanda: It will be approximate to those
calculations, as time has shifted slightly already from those.
Jonathan: On a numerical scale of dimensions, what do you see us
as shifting to? Some say fifth dimension, others four. What do you see?
Luanda: If you class it in the numerical system, you are
evolving from 3. And then you will remain in 3.5 and then evolve again
quite quickly from 4 to 5. And possibly some of you will evolve further.
I am hoping to evolve shortly.
Atasha: To what?
Jonathan: To incorporeal. What do you mean, shortly?
Luanda: In your years of, let's say, one hundred.
Atasha: Doesn't sound like shortly to me.
Jonathan: It's
a long time. At least you'll be around for a while.
Luanda: I
will be able to observe your joyous movement.
Atasha: What will
be the first signs of moving into another dimension?
Luanda: Jan
has noticed the birds already.
Jonathan: Oh yeah. They're
crashing into windows. Seems like their psychic grids are misaligned.
Atasha: What signs within us though?
Luanda: After your
sightings of your lower creatures - you will notice their changes. You
will be lighter within yourselves, and your thought processes will
become quickened. And your telepathic communications will be heightened.
The need to eat all the bulk you're eating now will decrease. The reason
you eat that amount is because there's nothing in the food.
Atasha: How can we encourage this process? Is that possible? Or
do we just go with the flow?
Luanda: I suppose it would be
easier for yourselves to connect back with the earth, as the earth is
the one who is moving. You are only part of the earth. To rid your
bodies of chemicals and any pollutants. It would be nice for me to say
breathe clean air.
Jonathan: Are you aware of a book that's just
come out by Colonel Philip Corso, Retired, who claims he was a member of
the Pentagon - which is the headquarters of the US military. He says
that in the early '60s he was a member of the team to reverse-engineer
the ship that crashed at Roswell. And he says the technology that was
derived from that craft was seeded in various industries - like
microchips, lasers, and fibreoptics. He's published this book on what he
claims is factual inside information on what happened, beginning the day
after the crash. He says the Greys are hostile. If in fact that craft
was from the Greys. Are you aware of him - or the book?
Luanda:
Not aware of the book. I can understand the technology derived from
this. What is the question?
Jonathan: It seems that more and
more people are coming out from governments and giving more information.
Now that this book is published I'm sure there's going to be a lot of
debating going on. I was just wondering whether there is some ulterior
motive to the book - that the government might be doing something.
Luanda: The governments will never publish anything knowingly
that would harm them. So most of the information you receive is
approved. Even though it may appear to be unofficial, it has been seen.
And it can only be of benefit to your government.
Jonathan: He
says the American military now has the technology of the Greys, because
of the reverse-engineering, and the Greys are now in a stalemate. He
says we're in a cold war with them, and makes out all the ETs to be
hostile.
Luanda: It is amusing.
Jonathan: (Indicates a
painting nearby of an ET) Do you like that picture? It's from Sirius,
apparently.
(Long pause. Then Luanda suddenly slaps his hands on
his/Jan's knees)
Luanda: I've lost my mind!
Jonathan:
Have you?
Luanda: Yes. Your government may be - they are in a
stalemate. But their weapons...
Jonathan: He's admitted that
we're now shooting down crafts.
Luanda: Yes. This is very
haphazard. There are many races.
Atasha: What of all this stuff
about the secret government doing things to stop people spreading
information that they regard as subversive. Mind-scanning devices, that
sort of thing. Is that disinformation to put fear into people or what?
Luanda: Hm. It is disappointing for me to have to refer
constantly to the governments of your planet as being only interested in
their own profit. Most of the information put out is disinformation. A
lot of it is disguised ..... with ...... back ...... their own mistakes
........ I am losing my connection. Anything else?
Jonathan:
Just wondering about the Roswell crash. Can you tell me what happened
according to your records?
Luanda: There were two crafts. I
shall refer to them as you understand. You have rogue Greys. They want
for their own benefit to enter this earth. Without permission. They are
not allowed. But they devise a plan. We have, as you would say,
kamikaze. To enter your atmosphere. Neutral Greys wanted to dissuade
this happening, and try to avert the ship. Consequently there was a
collision, for the latter expired. Rogue remained. And therefore their
plans had worked. As they were then on the planet, conscious and
invited.
Jonathan: So their plan was to bypass the
non-interference policy by appearing passive, in that they were
answering an invitation sent by the US Government when they found this
wreckage?
Luanda: It was very wrong.
Atasha: As I
understand it there has been an ET presence on earth for many centuries
or more. Why is there this non-interference directive? Nobody seems to
listen to it.
Luanda: Many, many centuries - thousands of years
ago, you were aware of own being. So the dimension between us was
narrower. And there were many different races who came here. You have
lost a lot, as we have too. And as you began to forget, the connections
had to be withdrawn. As not to cause upset.
Jonathan: A sort of
karma, isn't it?
Luanda: This is your word.
Atasha: Why
did people forget, why was so much lost?
Luanda: There was so
much.
Jonathan: As we condensed into this dimension it
suppressed our psychic abilities.
Luanda: There was much
pressure from around and consciousness became dense. The beings
concentrated their efforts into pure existence.
Jonathan: Can
you say anything about human mutilations?
Luanda: It was not me!
Jonathan: Have they been done by the rogue Greys? Apparently
loads of bodies have been found around military bases.
Luanda:
Have you seen these bodies?
Jonathan: No. Is there any truth to
it?
Luanda: Do you know people who are missing?
Jonathan: Not personally.
Luanda: Is this general
knowledge?
Jonathan: Not really. Do you know if the rogue Greys
do mutilate humans?
Luanda: Not any more.
Atasha: Did
they use to?
Luanda: Only to the extent of your own mutilations
on your own people. Look to your own government.
Jonathan: If
the US Government say that the Greys are hostile to us, what about their
secret underground bases where they are in collusion with those Greys?
Luanda: They will never mention anything derogatory.
Jonathan: Would you like to go now?
Luanda: Thank you
for allowing me to come.
Atasha: I would like to meet you in
person one day.
Luanda: I would like that too. Yes. Both of you.
Jonathan: Speak to you soon, dear friend. Thank you. We'll keep
an eye out in the sky for you.
Luanda: I'll be there.
Second Session, Next Day
Using remote viewing in
preparation, Jan finds Luanda in a small scout ship. It was decided that
this time she would change bodies with him, instead of going elsewhere,
as a first-time experience.
Luanda comes through...
Atasha: Hello again.
Luanda: Hello.
Atasha: When
you're in your little ship, what are you doing?
Luanda: Today?
Atasha: Yes.
Luanda: I am driving!
Atasha: Where
to?
Luanda: Interdimensional.
Atasha: Where is the
mothership?
Luanda: Out beyond your atmosphere.
Atasha:
We didn't see it yesterday.
(The afternoon sun seems too bright
for Luanda, and Jonathan suggests he sits in another chair across the
room which faces away from the glass doors. Luanda does not feel
confident about walking across there, so Jonathan closes the curtains
instead)
Atasha: Can you hear our thoughts telepathically while
you're here?
Luanda: It takes a lot of my energy to be here. I
may pick up a feeling.
Atasha: So it's better if we ask you
things verbally.
Luanda: Yes.
Atasha: What is the
mission of your mothership?
Luanda: It is a survival type of
craft. There are many beings in this craft, permanently. It is a home
for some and an experimental home for others. Some are just waiting to
be rehomed.
Atasha: What variety of beings are on this ship? Who
is waiting to be rehomed?
Luanda: Our own beings. There are some
hybrid beings who are waiting for dimensional changes so that they can
survive.
Atasha: What are the hybrids a cross between?
Luanda: There are some human and Reticulan. And there are
others. Are you interested?
Atasha: Yes.
Luanda: We have
many other types. Some are not totally from two separate races. We have
some from three or four types of genetics. There are many humanoid types
very similar to your own. There are Pleiadian beings. We have beings who
survive on other vibrations.
(Jonathan holds out a cup of tea to
Luanda)
Luanda: What is this?
Jonathan: Tea.
Luanda: Hmm. (Declines the offer) Anything else?
Atasha:
What's the purpose of breeding the hybrids?
Luanda: We would
like to evolve ourselves and this is one of the less painful ways, and
can be quite experimental. And we can dispose of those who are not......
(Just then the tinkling tune of an ice cream van goes by)
Luanda: (Puts head on one side and seems intrigued) Sound......
Jonathan: What's going on?
Atasha: Ice cream van.
Luanda: ....before they grow into full-size beings.
Atasha: The ones who aren't successful?
(Luanda nods)
Atasha: What's been the rate of success?
Luanda: We have
a sense of urgency. So many experiments have gone straight ahead. To
begin with, we were unsuccessful. But now we have more.
Atasha:
Why do you have a sense of urgency?
Luanda: The time is right
for us both.
Atasha: By both, do you mean humans and Reticulans?
Luanda: Yes.
Atasha: The time is right for what?
Luanda: For the changes.
Atasha: If humans and
Reticulans are both going to evolve, why are hybrids necessary?
Luanda: We will evolve together.
Atasha: You say they're
going to be rehomed. Where?
Luanda: Earth will be on a similar
frequency to the planet Essassani. There will be plenty of room for us
all.
Atasha: So is the idea that this earth, when its frequency
has moved on, will be a home for more evolved humans and hybrids and
Zetas and others? Is that the idea?
Luanda: It is a nice idea.
Atasha: Do you think it will happen?
Luanda: We hope.
Atasha: What are the obstacles?
Luanda: You yourselves
can halt the process.
Atasha: How do we halt the process?
Luanda: Negativity.
Jonathan: If you come from the
future, why don't you remain in your present where it's all happened
already?
Luanda: It would not happen unless we came to make it.
Atasha: How does it feel to come into a human body?
Luanda: It is like a memory. I have said before these limbs seem
very long. But I feel comfortable. Do I seem comfortable?
Jonathan: Your speech seems to be a bit more broken than before.
Luanda: Depends what is in this body.
Jonathan: If our
government decides to come clean on what they know about the Reticulans,
what would they do if the Reticulans talked of things the government
didn't want the public to know of? Like underground bases and genetic
engineering?
Luanda: What would your government do?
Jonathan: How would they counteract? Are they keeping quiet
because they see that as a risk?
Luanda: They are probably
looking at all angles. They are probably trying to find answers to all
possible questions. And answers to the questions that will never be
asked.
Jonathan: Hopefully one day we'll be told by the ETs what
really has been going on.
Luanda: How can you be sure as you
call ETs are telling the truth?
Jonathan: Yeah, the rogue
Greys... How will the government survive?
Luanda: The government
will survive, in its own way. But you will know intuitively who speaks
the truth.
Jonathan: Can we trust you? I trust you.
Luanda: Hmm. I can be trusted. I am different. But that does not
mean the others are bad. You have to decide whether it is bad if you are
not aware of what you are doing. It is ignorance.
Jonathan: I
suppose you have to rely on feeling quite a lot.
Atasha: Do you
know if there are any ETs who are intending to mislead us in any way?
Luanda: There may be some who would like to. But they will not
be allowed.
Atasha: Who will not allow them? What will not allow
them?
Luanda: The Council.
Atasha: What Council?
Luanda: Do you not know of the Council?
Jonathan: The
Federation.
Atasha: Well, I assume that's it but I just want to
know which one you mean.
Luanda: The Galactic Council.
Atasha: Do they have control over everybody?
Luanda:
They have control over those who will listen - which is the majority.
Atasha: Is there an intention to announce ET presence in the
world in an open and mass way, or is it intended that people just find
out one at a time? What is the intention of what I would call the
contact programme?
Luanda: Do you mean our contact programme? Or
the government contact programme?
Atasha: No, yours.
Luanda: We attune ourselves to those who are easily found to go
on our vibration and dimension, and work our way through slowly, so as
not to cause fear.
Atasha: Because the general - you know, the
media approach - would be: Why don't they land on the White House lawn
and announce themselves if they were real?
Luanda: Because your
government would destroy us.
Atasha: Do you know if there is an
official government contact programme going on, and if it's to discredit
you?
Luanda: Your government must always seem to be in control
of the situation. Therefore they are beginning to send out information
partly true and partly false, for their own good. They do not know what
will happen, but that is up to the people of the planet as to what they
will listen to and accept.
Atasha: Many of us who are interested
in connecting with ETs are finding a lot of trouble in getting any
conscious connection. Why is that? And how can we help things along?
Jonathan and I for example would be quite happy to visit a ship, but
it's not happening. And we don't know why. Or else we're not remembering
it and we don't know why. Why is that?
Luanda: Mm. We have
unfortunately our ways of doing things, and some can and some must wait.
Those who wait strive harder and influence more people around them to
change their ideas. This is partly the reason. You are quite
influential. It will happen.
Jonathan: What have you been up to
lately? What have you been busy doing?
Luanda: Checking
dimensional vibrations. It is quite complex. Anything else?
(General agreement that there are no more questions)
Luanda: I will go. I feel the need.
Atasha: We'd like to
meet you personally one day. I keep saying it.
Luanda: Thank
you.
Jonathan: Take care, little friend.
Luanda: I am
not little in my world.
Epilogue
Jan
describes her experience of being in Luanda's body during the above
channelling:
Jan: When I transferred I was sitting in his body -
it felt a bit restricted, a bit claustrophobic. Although I felt like I
had a good view. I could see quite nicely here and also right over there
without moving (i.e. wider vision). When I got there I wanted to breathe
- you know? But I couldn't because I couldn't feel anything to breathe
with. But I didn't panic. I've learnt now not to panic. I think he
breathes through all his body. There wasn't one particular area for it
to be inhaled in. Just gently survived, without a lot of effort. I
didn't feel confident to walk about in his body. I didn't want to break
anything! Actually, what I felt like was, if I stood up I'd pop out of
the top of his head. I felt like I was too big for his body. I was just
sitting there thinking I hope he's not long. A bit like when you're
hiding in a box when you're little and you want to be hidden, but you
want to get out as well.
Jonathan: Did you look at his hands?
Jan: Yeah. I've seen them before. He doesn't have any nails.
There isn't a little finger. It's three fingers and a thumb, but it
doesn't look like it - it looks like four fingers. The thumb is an
elongated finger. I think they have an extra joint in their fingers.
Atasha: Where was he sitting? What was around him?
Jan:
His control thingy. It was very plain. Sort of silver. But there weren't
gears and things like that.
Atasha: What, flashing buttons?
Jan: Not really. Almost like very mild indentations. You're not
pushing buttons. It was like a draining board. Metal, with little
indentations. And I had a feeling that he can use his head to operate it
rather than touch.
Jonathan: What was the chair like?
Jan: (Long pause) Oh dear. There wasn't a chair. He just bent
himself.
Jonathan: What?
Jan: Yeah. I'm glad I didn't
think that before or I might have fallen over. I know he said he would
get into a comfortable position for me. He must have just bent himself
so it was comfortable. I can't see a chair.
Jonathan: What was
the lighting like?
Jan: The lighting was like when it's dark
outside and you're in a dark room, and there's a light on in the corner
and you're in the corner with the light. The whole room isn't lit.
Atasha: A localised twilight around you?
Jan: Mm.
Atasha: Does it have a colour?
Jan: I think it's a
yellowy light. I was just getting used to that little body. It was quite
a big thing to be in it - in a new body.
Atasha: Did you feel
any kind of heartbeat or anything going on in it?
Jan: The
feeling was nothing in particular in any particular place. It seemed to
be a whole thing that was breathing and living. No one particular area
seemed to be like, this is the heart, these are the lungs. It all seemed
to be one system.
Jonathan: Did you access his mind?
Jan: Only the survival part. I think I was too much in there
just trying to survive on my own. But he was also looking after me.
Jonathan: Maybe that's why he seemed a bit distracted.
Jan: Maybe he was worried I'd be doing things in his ship. Grow
myself a genital or something!
(Laughter)
Atasha: Were
there any others around?
Jan: No. He was on his own.
Jonathan: Did you see a window?
Jan: There are windows
wherever you look. It's as if the walls are transparent, but they're not
really. Only if you look at it, then it's transparent. It feels as if
you have to attune yourself to the ship - become one with the ship.
Atasha: What was the view out?
Jan: It was in mid space.
Dark and twinkles. Little stars.
Atasha: Was the ship moving?
Jan: Stationary. He'd docked me. Dropped the anchor. It might
have been near a planet, or a star. Not sure what it was. It was yellow
- the light that was outside in the darkness.
Atasha: Did you
feel your feet on the floor or were you just hovering?
Jan: I
think they were on the floor. I think he did everything he could to make
me comfortable. I have to thank him for that. I think that's it.
(End of transcript)
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Introduction
Novancia
