TECH BRIEFING NUMBER 4

 

EXCALIBUR

CONFIDENTIAL

SUPER NOTS AND OT C/SING

CAPTAIN BILL ROBERTSON

22 August 1985

 

Hello everybody! This is the 22nd of August 1985. And this is Captain Bill Robertson, Frankfurt, RON'S ORG.

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Bravo. Ah so! And we'll give this R-factor: This will be Tech Briefing # 4 - but it's a CONFIDENTIAL BRIEFING. And is just for people who are starting NOTs, or on Solo-NOTs.

And just to bring you up to date since the last Tech Briefing a little bit: In the last year we have done the things which for instance RTC or the Implanters would call "Our usual suppressive and squirrellish acts". Like bringing people to the State of Clear and straightening out their messed up DCSIs (Dianetic Clear Special Intensives). Getting them programmed to go up the Bridge and getting them onto the Bridge, and making real OTs, where they are Cause over the data and CAN apply it.

So, we say to the other side: "Those are Suppressive Acts and we are very proud to be able to say that we have accomplished quite a few of those and have many people on the OT-levels, at least 12-15 and have produced in between 20 and 30 - maybe a couple more - Clears. Or straightened them out from their misdeclares or their invalidations, plus a lot of other grades, and so on."

Now, what the purpose of this particular meeting is - from the C/S viewpoint - to show some of the traps and tricks and problems that cases get into and that cases do not know about. Even people who are - ah - went up the Bridge in other areas, because they didn't have the benefit of Flag C/Sing, and the benefit of reading the LRH C/Ses on Advanced Levels.

And to handle some of the possible misunderstoods, possible confusions, possible things that would affect their ability to audit NOTs successfully - that is the purpose of this particular briefing.

To start off - let us assume, as we are all here OT III or above - I will talk from the OT III -  NOTs- viewpoint. So, we don't have to go back and look at very simple things, but I will assume that you understand, that first of all we are dealing in the beginning with the composite case. All right. That means it's a complete mass of BTs and clusters. The guy's stuck in there somewhere and he is dramatizing whatever occurred - maybe on his OWN track - maybe on somebody ELSE's track. And he is totally the effect of all these charges, BPCs, wrong items, things, events, engrams, secondaries, locks. Everything that you can imagine in Dianetics or in regular grade charge or anything you can find on a list can be wrong with a guy. All right?

So, it is very difficult to get a guy from a "no auditing" up to the State of Clear. But basically we know that is what's done on the lower levels. All right, now we DO that. You have got a Clear.

Now, this is where the confusion starts with the most people, that I have talked to, because of the security, that was put around this area. And even in the beginning, after the people are on it, they are treated like they shouldn't know anything about it. They were just given, totally robotically, to "Run this". And, "That will be your next level".

So, first I want to straighten out the confusion of - from the OT III and above viewpoint - like "What is a Clear?". And, "Why do we therefore define this guy as a Clear and how come there are four different ways of Clear - the ways that they could BE Clear - but there is really only ONE STATE OF CLEAR?"

Well, this is interesting, because if you look back the time track, you will find that ...I'll just make a diagram here, but it can be given out with copies and so on ..., if we look at - from the OT III data we have, what LRH calls - Incident I. It occurs at start of track, right?

So, just let us take a single being now and we have start of track here as a line, and we have here Incident I. Now exactly why is that the start of the track? Because that is the first point, that he started COMPULSIVELY to make pictures. You may say: “Well, yeah. But why?", and so on. "But that implant, that's weird!". Well, this comes up again and again, but the point is that he is COMPULSIVELY making pictures FROM HIS OWN VALENCE from that point. (chart I)

In other words: He, having gotten his Incident I, is now somehow making pictures. And we've run guys out from Incident I, that have discovered the reason WHY they make pictures like that - and it's because they had BTs stuck to them from EARLIER INCIDENT Is, who went into THEIR VALENCE - all right? Therefore they don't see them. Some of them do sort of feel it as a little something, they can't get ahold of around the back here. But some BTs, that were so much - shall we say - at effect, or just totally ready to be robotically inclined, that this BT you are handling started making pictures, or at LEAST he saw things and then he found out, he had MEMORIES of these. He could have RECALL after Incident I. And no matter if he looked at it, and he COULDN't as-is it. Why? Because of ownership. It's actually THESE guys, that are holding the picture, you see?

So, he looks at the picture - HIS picture would as-is of it - but then, there is still the other guy's picture, that he would have left. And since they are all SHARING THE SAME VIEWPOINT coming up the track, you don't get a blow on this guy, you don't get an as-isness.

So, however, he CAN DECIDE for himself and FOR HIS VALENCES - you see? Because he IS in CONTROL of them - that they DON'T NEED THESE PICTURES ANYMORE - all right? So this is not the only point where Clear can come. It can come there, but it doesn't have to. Because he CAN decide for himself and get the agreement of these guys NOT to make pictures. It doesn't make a STABLE Clear but it makes a Clear, all right? Because they are not having to have pictures and they can create them and unmock them all as a team. "We all do it - because the boss says we do it - right?"

Anyway, the difference here being that this guy is NOT "out of valence" - OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN HIS VALENCE, see? And he is the boss. He says "OK, you guys, now ..." Or whatever he thinks it is. After Incident I there is a confusion. He never knows exactly, what happened in the "snaps" of Incident I, etc. WE know, that there were OTHER BEINGS PUT WITH HIM, ok?

So, if he can therefore handle these guys and control them easily enough by his more ability, he can get them to agree NOT TO MAKE PICTURES. So, we have what we call "a Clear". It would be a guy who doesn't NECESSARILY have to have run out his OWN Incident I, but somewhere up the track, right? he may have gotten (graph) - :'ú

you see? - into Incident II here and let's put back here (graph) I think it's dating 1Quadrillion - 1 and 1/2 Quadrillion was the CC Implant, (graph) Incident II is 75Million with the 36 days and the OT II stuff, ok?

Now, so there is THAT on his track and then here we go, he is up into PT (graph).Single being, except with these guys IN HIS VALENCE. So, any point along here .... Now we are in PT AUDITING this guy, right? Now we KNOW, that essentially he is NOT just this - he IS A COMPOSITE. He has other beings, who have done the SAME STUFF in various cause-effect points and they have all come conglomerated around him - all right? And that guy, we are auditing, is the most strongest or the leader you might say or the boss or whatever.

So, in essence, since Incident I he may have had (graph) more additions to his composite case at any point along the line because of mutual incidents or because of implants or because of whatever. But these guys have their OWN tracks down the line, all right? Have their OWN tracks, no matter HOW they come into HIM. So, when you get into this PT auditing, you have the guy somewhere in here, as a thetan, with all these other thetans around him, shaped up into his body form and every thing else. Well, it's what we know as the NOTs and OT III Case, right? So, this is what we get.

Now, how does a guy go Clear? OK, he can do it in several ways: One is, he can run Dianetics. And he gets in back of an engram, which has got THAT POSTULATE init that HE (needed pictures) - or he UNMADE the postulate, so that now "he didn't need pictures". Your see?

"I MUST remember this" or "I must HOLD onto this" comes from that Bulletin - I think some of you have seen - where "a thetan can do anything forever". He also tries to HOLD POSITION forever. So he gets in a certain incident, that he didn't want to happen. So he tries to hold on and says: "No, I'm not going to let that happen". So, he is always making an impression of it. But also, SO ARE THE GUYSIN HIS VALENCE. So, he can go UNCLEAR at that point.

Now in Dianetics, if you run to that point of that engram, he does: "WOW, Oh God! Man! No wonder I was holding on that that thing! Ahh, I didn't need to make that picture. Hey! WOW!" As soon as he doesn't need to, then he goes out of agreement of course with all of these guys in here (the composite), that HAVE to make pictures, right? HE doesn't need to make them, HIS VALENCE-GUYS (IN HIS VALENCE)don't even have to make them, right? So right away all the pictures, that are NOT his (but that he copied) and all those that ARE his and the guys in his valence - Phffft! -disappear!

They don't need them anymore and he clears out some space. Because of course, if you are the BOSS of an org, you keep your OWN files closer to you, than other guys keep their files to you, (than other guys keep their files close to you), you know? So in YOUR office - your files - and in your office - Boom! - right away, you've got a LOT OF SPACE! No matter if some other guys may have been duplicating his files, they certainly move out of they way: "Uh, what's, what's going on here? All those -all that stuff - that was holding us - disappeared!"

So he as-ises his part of it. So he clears out a little bit here - a little space around himself. These guys (composite) are still hanging around. They're stuck in the body and still ... and everything like that. Basically the guy has cleared out a little space around him - and we say: "Ok, this guy is Clear". HE DOESN'T NEED TOCOMPULSIVELY MAKE PICTURES ANYMORE. And you notice how "delicate" that the Clears are, right? If you don't hat him properly on "Nature of a Being", if you don't get them up through the non-interference-zone quickly, if you don't treat them with very - you know - handle the grade charge, that may still be left, so THEY DON'T COMPULSIVELY PULL IN BTs OR OTHER PICTURES FROMOTHER PEOPLE. If you don't cut these little lines delicately, because - realize the guy is Clear here - and you didn't HAT him yet. He's not hatted. TWO sides of the bridge, you know: You get the auditing side and the training side. He's not hatted -doesn't get the knowledge WHY he is Clear, and "What did he get out of?" or "What's in his space?".

It's VERY delicate. He may start having little comm lines back in here, back into the bank. So, you get off the grades charge by severing those possibilities of these guys -let's don't just say HIM - or charge in reflection from the environment, HITTING them and they're influencing HIM. And HIM seeing the environment and then wondering about it from something, he knows in the bank. Anyway, he's gonna get connected up again, if you don't handle him. So we try to handle the grades charge and the guy who needs anything as a "wants handled". Get his OCA stable. Get him hatted on "Nature of a Being", so he realizes, if he sees any pictures, it's NOT his. It's gonna be handled LATER. So he isn't going" "What is it? What is it? Is it mine? MUST BE MINE!". As soon as he decides that - Zap! He's got an increased ability to postulate here - that's the other thing - an increased ability to postulate as a Clear -means that HE CAN POSTULATE HIMSELF UNCLEAR. That's simple, it's simply it.

So, some point on the track he decided to HAVE TO MAKE PICTURES and later on, now he decides, he DOESN'T HAVE TO. All right? That's all a Clear is. Now he can go that way on a Dianetics cognition - getting that - pffft - at the back of one of this "must-hold-on-to-it"s.

He CAN get it from contacting a BASIC on a BASIC-CHAIN of engrams - which is like - something in Incident II, you know? Like that explosion or the big holder of ALL this engram stuff. These pictures are very much then "explained" to him and he realizes, that he's just been mocking them up and - pffft - the whole thing goes. So he can get it through (graph) C.C., Clear through Dianetics, through hitting a large holding incident - right? - which is causing him to be connected into all the others' pictures. That's also a Dianetics type thing.

But it CAN happen on other processes as well, 3D Criss Cross - 3DXX - as we can call it, the old Criss Cross; goals processes - if you get a 'reliable item' on the guy, he goes back to a purpose line or something like that - you possibly can get it blown by prepchecking it - the postulate comes off - BOOM - and he doesn't need to make it. Anyway, there are ways to do it. Or he can get totally in P.T. with Objectives, and realize all that other stuff is pictures and he isn't making them. This is sort of -again he is not very hatted about it - he realizes: "Hey, I don't need to make pictures!" Even Power Processing can make a Clear, because it blows off the engrams he's stuck in. OK? So there's a lot of ways you can make that.

Now, what is a "Past Life Clear"? Well, that's a guy, that has had auditing since 1950here (graph) and somehow went Clear in auditing. So he - but he did "Bunk" there and he went from one body life into another one. So you are just really dating, where he went Clear. Just like a Dianetics Clear, but :"What process?" and "When?". All right?

So you have a Clear and your "Past Life Clear" (graph). Then you have the "Clearing Course Clears". Now the Clearing Course is where it gets interesting, because the Clearing Course Clears - the ones who did the Clearing Course... It's this particular incident. It's one which forces a guy to mock up these certain items and pictures and it's done with a lot of pain and unconsciousness. And since Incident I is the FIRST time, that he can go really out of valence as being - see? - and has not recognized, he's got other people in his valence... But he can REALLY go out of valence on the CC too. There is a LOT OF FORCE in that and also, there were other beings going through that. But not all at the same time. They were done one after the other.

So, if you happen to get smashed with them later - or with people (beings) who have done it (gotten the CC-Implant) later - there is liable to be a great confusion about it. Now, because as he is ALSO going OUT OF VALENCE he can't as-is it, because it's somebody else's as well, you see? Even if they had it a second later or 3 years later or 1000 years later, he says: "Well, yeah, I cognited, 'Oh ho!' I'm not an animal!" He still has got this PICTURE of an animal. So, he runs the CC. He runs the item. And he is not only running it on himself, he's running it on ANY BT that he's got around him, that has that item.

So that's why it produces a Clear, that ... - pffft - it blows all the COPIES in his space, all the copy charge, that would have connected him up and confused him since the CC all the way to PT. And then puts him back basically to this state again, to where he's got his - you know - his Incident I charge and that's about it.

Now, it's not necessary to have Incident I charge - understand that. This is what makes him delicate. Because he can get into the unknown of "Why?" If he changes his mind, he can't quite get out of it, you know? He can't quite understand, what's happening. He still hasn't handled the Incident I. OK, but that's people IN HISVALENCE. We're talking about now what makes him OUT OF VALENCE. The cc, Dianetics engrams, other major events on the track, Incident II especially. OK, (graph) this is another. So, in any one of these points, he can have or make a cognition, that he's "making up these pictures"' and - pffft - knocks them off.

Now, what's a Natural Clear? This is a guy, that's HAD THE COGNITION only, ORHAS MISSED THE STUFF. Either (graph) from there (Inc I) or somewhere in there (Inc II) has come along into PT  and he therefore knows  - essentially - or at least when he came to the planet, he knew it - (he might have forgotten since then) -that HE IS NOT HAVING TO MAKE PICTURES. That's all it is, he's not making them compulsively. He's not mocking up mental matter, energy, space and time, yeah? Now, it's no definition of a Natural Clear how FAR back from Incident I (or Inc II) he became that way, you see? He may have gone UNCLEAR at some time and then really took a look at it and blew out of it. By being clearly - you know what I mean - by being VERY observant, very, very,...

And then, other people, who were Natural Clear, have decided to do missions. For instance, to come onto THIS planet after Incident II and find out how aberrated it was and then work out experiments to try to handle it. So in case of a Natural Clear, that comes to the planet, has a job to do to get aberrated, to bring in the case and try to explain it to an auditor, so they can work out methods to handle it - you find these. I mean, several of us were in this type of experiment - you know? And I did the whole Clearing Course and went Clear after 80 hours of running the Clearing Course. Later on, on OT III, I realized, that I was Clear before I came to the planet. But I came to the planet with a purpose: To build up a case and then to use it for research, whenever that was going to be, and to bring it with me all the way to that point. And I got there too late, because the research had been done already! I didn't arrive at Saint Hill until LRH HAD the Clearing Course.

But when I ran it, I had all these data sitting in it, that I wanted to lay out for LRH. So I started writing to my C/S, writing my reports - all this data how they did it -bap bap bap. And that's when the C/S was saying: "Hey! That's not necessary. Just run the items."

I said: "No, send it to LRH, it might be important!" It is my mission, you see? Now, I WAS a bit late. And then they send it up to him. He wrote back and said: "That I Show it was done." - you know? - "He has those cogs - let him write that, all right? -that's all right." So he knew that was somebody, that was doing the mission to find out that stuff.

So, anyway, that's basically what it is. A Natural Clear has already - before he came here - he HAD that state, right? Now he MAY have gotten aberrated. We found a few Natural Clears in the last year, that have had a severe life time or something. They got very much drugs, sick, hospitalization, baby, childhood stuff, and they got MADE, or postulated themselves, essentially UNCLEAR, by their desire to keep that body or something. And they then had a hell of a lot of engrams and invalidation and then they decided, that this is really theirs, so they immediately mocked it up themselves. And they decided, they were unclear. Essentially we get them back to the beginning of that and they realized, they WERE CLEAR ALL THE TIME. And then they went into agreement with all this composite.

So, any questions now about the State of Clear? Because I wanted to clean that up: It's a guy, who is cause over mental matter, energy, space and time on the first dynamic. That means, he can knowingly mock up or unmock mental matter, energy, space and time. OK? Well, a lot of people do have confusion about that, let's say. Right?

But now we get to the interesting thing: What is OT I? Well, OT I is the getting of the guy a little more stable, you know? He goes out and he looks, spots beings, spots bodies, looks at things, this and that, notices how people operates their bodies, etc, etc. Find a place where there aren't any beings, you know what I mean? He's getting more stable and we are sort of waking him up into the spiritual universe - 7^th dynamic. A lot of people think, when they are Clear on the 1st dynamic, it means their BODY is Clear. It doesn't mean that. It means HIM as a spiritual being. Clear -1st dynamic. Huh? You have to orient him, which is OT I. Doesn't mean, that he still can't have a pain or a rash or an itch or "Do I have to smoke?", or what ever that is. He does not clear his body. There's a lot of misunderstoods and so on. It's the BEING - means he's SEPARATED OUT FROM THE COMPOSITE - it's all it means. So, OK. Any questions on OT I?

OT II. What is OT II? Well, on OT II, you're NOT running the guy. This is something they FAIL TO TELL YOU on OT II. You're not running it on a Clear. All you're doing on OT II - and by the way, if a guy hasn't done the Clearing Course, I also have him look over those platens, until he gets a persistent F/N on that -but basically, these two are the major incidents of the line-plots and Implant GPMs, that occurred to most, most, most all thetans in this area. This one for the universe(CC) - and this one (OT II) for the Sector - and this one (CC) near the start of track for all. So this one (CC) is the more general, and this one (OT II) is a little less general, because it's mostly just Sector 9 and it's just this planet, where Incident II was done.

And I know you all ran BTs, that you found out bypassed that, and they came here later, after Incident II. You know? But they got associated with other people, who GOT it. You know? OK.

So, OT II takes these items, the actual line-plots - the CC, and actual line-plot of Incident II - and there's  lots of them - we don't need to go into that - that's just a lot of garbage, that the implanters put in and CONFUSED the guy and gave him WRONG VALENCES or WRONG ITEMS and keeping him being MEST or a BODY or WHATEVER, OK?

Now, these items were not "cluster-making", when they were given. Exactly WHEN they were given - they were given on a machine or an assembly line, that gave it to "SINGLE" BEINGS. It was for SINGLE BEINGS. It was NOT a composite making incident IN ITSELF, you understand? It was just like if you have a hundred people in the same picture show, that are all seeing the same picture, but at the same time they are NOT being mashed together with a big A-bomb, you see? So, it's not just a composite making incident.

What it IS however, is that EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME PICTURE AND INCIDENT. So everybody has the SAME PICTURE and he's maybe moved along a little track (machine track) to get the SAME VIEWPOINT OF EVERY PICTURE, you see? Then they ALL have an IDENTICAL PICTURE of the item and the run. And they confused that even more, because they were given it at DIFFERENT TIMES. One guy went through, then another guy a week or a bit later, and another guy over here and in another place.

So, TIME, LOCATION,  DURATION, ALL that is different. But the PICTURE IS THE SAME. So, there's a confusion. And by confusion they go A=A=A, because they all have this picture, right? They think it's ALL THE SAME.

Before you can run, of course, the Incident II and I, you HAVE TO GET THIS CONFUSION OFF THE TRACK, because otherwise all the BTs think they are the same, because they all have the SAME MAJOR PICTURES OF THE IMPLANTS. And they all run at the same - TRY to run - at the same time. And you'll either end up stalling the PC or they all go through together and into a free-wheel or something, into the 36 days or they all experience the explosion at the same time and maybe blow the guy right out of the body, maybe killing the body. That's what LRH said. That can be a hell of an impact, you know. 20 000 BTs all running the explosion at the same time, you know? Be enough to stop the heart. Boom!... you know? So, you can't run the guy on OT III with these guys acting as a composite.

So, the running of OT II, and the CC Platens - to check them - to get the BPC off these, is to get this composite thing around the guy - after he's cleared out the space -it breaks it up in fragments (graph). Right? BTs and clusters, basically. It does not much touch the NOTs case, by the way. It just breaks up the BTs in his space, like this (graph). Instead of being a thing like this (graph), where it looks like "my case" -and I tell you it's EXACTLY, what they tell you, as I'm just doing it on an OT II. Here ally had to cog, that first of all he WASN'T RUNNING HIMSELF on the process. And then he got that. And then he couldn't understand, why there was an "earliest" run. Why do you have to intend the "earliest run" and he says: "In the materials it says, that the "entities" have these runs." You see? That EACH have ALL of this thing and he couldn't really quite get that, until he demonstrated it and then he finally understood, that what you are doing, when you are doing this, is: You are running the "earliest" on each entity, that has it and as you go through it, other guys WILL BLOW CHARGE ON HIM TOO. Because they realize, "That's the same pictures", "Hey, hey, hey". They get interested - bap bap bap bap -and you are running them through later and later items and finally - wham! - it all breaks apart and all the guys are discharged on what's been holding them together as  pictures -all these items.

So, they then break apart into this sort of thing BTs & clusters (graph II). Any question on OT II? Those are the MAJOR incidents, that hold  together people by pictures. Same picture, different times.

These are NOT the ONLY incidents on the track. You can also have Fac Is, and stuff like that, but they come up - they're not as universal, not as basic. And I'll say one more thing about this, before I ask for questions. One more thing or reason these are basic - more basic: It's because they affect MORE DYNAMICS. These ones, these ones, that LRH put onto the OT levels. Why didn't he put Fac I? Why didn't he put the Helatrobus Implants? Why didn't he put..., you know? Well, those were minor game implants in a large history of the universe. You also have local wars and whatever they did to each other during the "take-over-scenarios" - bababap. But THESE (CC & OTII) INVOLVE MORE DYNAMICS. They were done with an INTENTION and a SPREAD, a widespreadness to affect the 3rd, the 4th, the 5th, the 6th, the 7th dynamic. And too, with an EVIL INTENTION behind it to handle all thetans that way. Even if they didn't succeed totally, they were INTENDED to handle all thetans, not just a game of "us against them", you see? It wasn't local war. It was a 7th DYNAMIC handling for ALL.

And of course you recognize the insanity of Xenu in that. He was connected with most of this. He was connected with Incident I, Incident II, and also part of the CC. Also that was used - also that's part of track warfare and stuff. He was big backer of that kind of implant, see?

So you get DYNAMIC CONSEQUENCES with these. And what is a Clear? He is Clear on the 1ST DYNAMIC. He must be expanded now on more DYNAMICS. He's going to find these processes are handling things up through the dynamics with most at these incidents. Any questions?... Yes?

"What is the technical aspect of the repeat of the CC in Incident II?"

That was at first supposed that that WAS done. And I'm sure in my data - that I picked up from people around this planet, that have this stuff - is that it was put in a few places. We'll say it was "saved" from the old civilization a long time ago or something and the implanters had it in their files. Sort of like archives. They put it in in some places. It did get stuck in some places - shall we say - 36-Day-Implant Places.

What we've been finding out essentially by running these guys and getting all their stories off and so on like that through the "What happened here on Earth?", is that there was a bit of a sloppiness. You can't expect renegades to do every thing perfectly, you know. And there was sloppiness. I mean, we found guys, that were dumped here to be A-bombed and they MISSED the bomb, because the guys said: "Oh shit! I'm late! Man, let's just dump'em." So they were dumped into the ocean, and they go back you know? So he dumped them into the ocean and they didn't get NEAR the bomb, you see?

"And maybe some of them were afraid to put down or land on earth. So they missed the whole planet."

They missed - maybe missed - the whole planet! We found out all kinds of weird things like that... some guys go through - and like you say - you sometimes find these funny implants, where the machine breaks down and you'll find the guy sitting there, looking at something in front of it for like days, before it starts up again - bup bup bup - and on he goes. You know? Or we hit another guy, who had missed. Now they dump him off target or something - they didn't want to get themselves fooled around down there and they started to drop the bombs or either were late coming from another planet with a shipment, so they just threw it, just opened it up, and this guy fell down in the ocean near Africa. His interest was Natural Science, and he saw: "Jesus, look at all the shit, that's happening over that way!" And after he melted out of his ice cube with his cluster - he didn't have a FULL cluster there, except from Incident I - but he went into Africa and he tried to save all those animals, that were dying from the radiation. That was his old game and he had been down there trying to save all these animals - they were all dying from the fall-out, you see? Very, very strange stories you hear from these guys. But is IS true. They didn't really get everything exactly like it says in the things. And that is your MAJOR stuff. That is a90%, 99% that's all that. Right?

"And what was the purpose in repeating the CC? To restim? - or what?"

Just implanting. I mean, that's - look, they got the 36-days-pictures. All these were in stock - let's put it in this way: The Incident II stuff - most of it - was in stock, in the usual stock. Files of an Implanters trade, right? Because it's not their first attempt, you know? The CC was also in stock, you know? But it took a little more finesse to set up a CC implant. They had to be really well organized. It was a real tuck-tuck-tuck, you know, and different items in sequence and all that. So it was a bit too sophisticated for some of these places, but they did set it up in a couple of places, where they had time.

You see, they were really on a tight time schedule. So they were reporting half-dones, not-dones, you know, false compliances, and all that. So some people did get the CC again there. But their BASIC on it is really earlier, see? You WON'T find that on all the guys, that were in it. But you will find the Incident II mostly or the 36-days-pictures, and maybe some guys - we ran one guy - the machine broke down, as he came down from the electrical ribbon - electronic ribbon - it captures the thetan and tracks him down, puts him through this - sort of a tubular flow line with the implanting (Incident II) stuff - Ahh sorry - OT II and 36-days-stuff. So, he's down in there, going along the line, seeing all the pictures - and once we had a guy - the thing broke down. You know, it stopped for a while. And he exteriorized from it. He just - Whooop!... - came out and he only had a piece of it. But then they caught him again later - this is why, it wouldn't blow - you see - they were still going around with the "Hoover" - whoosh-whoosh - and the ribbons, and they caught him again - Foom! - and put him through it AGAIN. So he had sort of - like you would get that far of it and he had some more later, you know what I mean? It was just weird. So you get all of these possibilities, you see? OK.

So, if the guy's attention is fixed on that, you can always figure there's something in there, that isn't completely as-ised by the exact time, place, form and event. OK?

So, then we get this guy's case broken up like this (BTs & clusters), by the time he is on OT III.

Now, why?... now we go back to Incident I (graph) here, and Incident II here, and PT here. Now, let's ask: WHY is Incident II and I run on OT III? Anybody know that? Why don't you run other stuff? Why do you run Incident II and I on OT III? Why do you run II and I on OT III?

"It's the basic of it."

The basic of what? "His charge."

The basic what?

"Of the dynamics."

The dynamics also. Yes, much 7th dynamic and it put a basic in in terms of implant side and technical side. What are we trying to do here, now that we got the case split up into BTs and clusters?

"One can handle it with one go, break it up. It can be done with..."

Yeah, but why? Why are these two implants VERY, VERY important?

"Because they make clusters?"

That's it! That's it! They're CLUSTER MAKING. These two - the 36 day by itself  -and the CC by itself, were NOT cluster making incidents. They were the same picture, but at different times. Accidently a guy might have been put through it with another guy, but it was NOT THE INTENTION of it.

The INTENTION of THESE TWO incidents (Incident II & I) - and they WERE the major track incidents - was to MAKE CLUSTERS. As you know, there are also, so called MUTUAL INCIDENTS. They can make clusters too, but they are individualized . They are more like... for each cluster there is a different one. But these (Inc II & I) are the MAJOR ones that MAKE CLUSTERS. So, on the OT III (graph)... we have these two cluster making incidents, THE BASICS. So with running that, you're freeing up thetans. Essentially you're starting now the procedure of getting the thetan to realize, what gets him OUT OF VALENCE or what gets others IN HIS VALENCE, OK?

And that's, what is keeping him on this little continuous idea, of... only a Clear on the 1st dynamic. Because he can suddenly go UNCLEAR by another dynamic force you know - by 3rd dynamic catching him again, throwing him through another one, or whatever dynamic, you know? Or he can go unclear because of a lot of 2nd dynamic stuff, that he gets into. He saw pictures from this (composite), or from his BTs and clusters. And he can attach all his lines of attention on them and hold onto it and decide, that he needs all that. Once he does, forget him. He picks up all the other stuff from those guys too, so he's now going unclear. I mean, these guys (Pre-OTs) are delicate! So, now we get the Cluster Making Incidents, II and I (graph). Now we know those ARE the two main cluster incidents, because THIS (Inc II) was a mutual incident taking place on Earth, where the guys were exploded on top of the mountains. And whenever we get a false picture of a volcanoes and all that, he went through the 36 days. But the important thing is the INCIDENT ITSELF, that made the cluster -AND the EARLIER BEGINNING, which is the CAPTURE. The capture.

And that's why you have to run from the capture on, because it's like the earliest beginning of that incident. The first time he felt the EVIL INTENTION, you see? This is an intention on the 7th dynamic to destroy thetans. The first time he FELT that, is that point, he gets in the capture.  You know, what I mean? "Hey, something wrong here, these guys coming after me...", and you get it. If he doesn't... if he just hits a guy and he contacts his Incident II, it MAY not blow, because he hasn't got the EARLIEST BEGINNING of it, when he felt the first hint of evil intention.  Because the evil intention is always present throughout the incident, more and more intensified. Because behind everything, of course, you have in the 7th dynamic a communication of evil intention. But as soon as you start to "do thetans in", they feel it. So the incident will release, when he (BT) spots that exact time, place, form, event and gets the first indication of the evil intention.

Now the cluster, however, - part of it - will break up by spotting the mutual incident(graph). So, here we have a Cluster up in PT from the old Incident II. These guys -or say a "Cluster" - so these guys must audit THAT and let's just say, they don't have another mutual incident in here. Let's just say here is Incident II. So, they go back and they spot the explosion here as the mutual incident and they go - zupppp... - and right away they separate out. That WAS their mutual incident, right?

Now, each of them MIGHT have a different capture. They even might have a different first part of the incident, you see? So the key thing is however, that you find the MUTUAL INCIDENT, THAT'S HOLDING THEM TOGETHER.

Now we found also some of the guys, and you will probably find too - that on some of the guys - THE CAPTURE W A S THEIR MUTUAL INCIDENT.  The earlier similar mutual incident of theirs. (graph). There was a whole group, that got blown away all at the same time or later. Out of existence... a Laser or something to wipe them out - fffft - collect them up as thetans within communities: non-conformists, artists, people who spoke against the government of Xenu's.

 

* * End of Tape 1, Side 1 * *

 

This is side two, 22 of August, 1985, Tech Briefing #4, CONFIDENTIAL SUPER NOTs.

 

We have just gone over, on the 1st side, the basic reasons for Dianetics, Grades, Clear - what Clear is - definition of OT I and OT II - what it does to the case - and then we were on OT III and we just went over the basic Clustering Incidents, why they are on OT III. It's simply because they ARE the basic clustering incidents, with the evil intentions spread across the dynamics, especially in dynamic 7, to suppress thetan. So, it is more of a generalized incident. And we're just now speaking about that in running (Incident) II on a Cluster. II could be the Cluster making incident, but ALSO the capture could be a Cluster making incident on that Cluster. If not, they may have an earlier similar, even one between Incident II and Incident I, that is a Cluster making incident, or they could have a later one. This is something, you have to sort out with a meter and with the Cluster itself, if you can get a "spokesman" even for it or you get it talking to you as a "unit". And you can date/locate it and find out what it is, OK? But the basic thing is, that the Cluster Making Incident can occur: AFTER Incident II (closer to PT), Incident II, the CAPTURE of Incident II, BEFORE Incident II. All right? And it can also BE Incident I in some cases. Allright?

"Could it be even BEFORE Incident I - as we do have earlier Incident Is?"

We have only found... -yeah, it's not a general thing though - we've only found a couple of examples about it and that's something, I want to bring up later. Why, why that can be, right?

So, Incident I IS a Cluster making incident. It didn't make as big Clusters as Incident II. Incident II you had like maybe millions of thetans put on the mountain top. Incident I you maybe only put him together with a guy in the incident plus a number of other BTs - 20, 30, 40, maybe only 5, some of them - depending how early they had their Incident I - some were only like 2 or 3 thetans put together.

The interesting thing is that it has the COMBINED CHARGE of the Cluster making incident AND the same thing we were dealing with in Clearing Course and 36 days -that it is a SIMILAR INCIDENT, THAT WAS DONE MORE THAN ONCE. You see?

We don't... haven't found anybody, that went from one volcano to another and did Incident II TWICE, because that all happened almost on the same day, you know? Most of the action took place very much in a close area of time. But, Incident I was a bit more covert and was done with a lot of PR and so on like that. So that it was something, the Thetans were very much into, but it was done essentially many, many, many, many times - as LRH says: Everyone, that has a time track, essentially in this universe, will have them, you see?

So, there you go. So, it  (Incident I) is also - MADE A CLUSTER WHEN IT WASDONE,  because it IS that. It just goes - Snap! - and the "snaps" are when the beings were put together on the other guy. In the "snaps" part they (BTs) come in. They stick to the being on the "snaps". And that's why the guy didn't see them! He's immediately overwhelmed with all those pictures of a chariot, colors, waves of light and so on.

Now, the tricky part is, that it was done so OFTEN. It's just like "tax collecting", you know? It was "tax collecting" every year, and they do it all over the place, so if the guy has a mutual incident such a paying his tax - income tax - with his whole family paying tax - say that was the mutual incident - then he did it last year, and he did it...He may have done it more than once himself AND he may have been put together with the guys, who had it (Incident I) EARLIER in a different place. So you have all these complexities and that's why you ask "Earlier Incident I?"

That's what the button is, you see? You understand the "effort to stop" and "effort to withdraw"? - that's just from that incident. But the "Earlier Incident I?" is trying to BREAK UP THOSE CLUSTERS, and sometimes it goes - brrr - and they all fall apart! You see? It's even more direct, if you say to them: "Is there - are there beings with Earlier Incident Is, who have confused it with this one?" "Can they please spot their Earlier Incident I?"  - bummm - and they start spotting it, see? You see, what I mean? They just go - brr - like that. Now the guy himself, that you are handling, may have an Earlier Incident I, but if that doesn't resolve it, then you can say: "Are there beings connected to you, that have Earlier Incidents Is? Please spot them." -brrrfff - they go off, you see?

"Something is freeing while you are giving the lecture!"

Right! Now you see, that's how that works, Now, the other reason a guy won't blow -after you've run II and I off, and Earlier Is - is the other button we're talking about now:  Earlier Universe. And that comes about because - of course, if a guy comes across to play a game and he gets a "snap" in Incident I, instead of doing what his PURPOSE is, you know - he goes in to play: "Wow- wow...I want to build a planet. "or "I want to help create some orderly MEST." or "I want to do this.", "I want to have a...have a...I want to be a big Thetan!", or whatever. And the next thing you know, he is snapped in and he's just a Cluster, a part of a Cluster, and he has a great big FAILED PURPOSE.

The only way you can get him out of that failed purpose - because he can not obtain that purpose and he has not obtained that purpose in this universe on his time track -so you have to get him to SPOT THE EARLIER UNIVERSE, where he COULD have the ability to do that. And so he actually gets that ability rehabilitated from there. Now you could say, he gets back into his OWN VALENCE and he is able to create on his own and handle his own purposes. But when you first got him out as a "single being", and you assume he IS a single being - after he has done his Incident I and you have a SINGLE guy - but he can't leave - or as a sort of assist there as he isnot "VGIs" - well, on III you just ask: "Was there an Earlier Universe?"

"Haaaa, yeah!" - bummm - "That's where I could create! Yeah!" See? He CAN'TCREATE HERE. He's back (after waking up) in it (the MEST universe) and he's here RIGHT NOW - to him he just woke up from a long sleep. He is just like on the BEGINNING OF HIS TRACK! And he HASN'T ACHIEVED HIS PURPOSE! Andhe now knows that in all of 4 QUADRILLION YEARS, he never achieved it! So he'sin a failed purpose.

So you put him into valence IN THE UNIVERSE, THAT HE FEELS COMFORTABLE, THAT HE CAN ACHIEVE HIS PURPOSE. "Earlier Universe? "The guy goes: "Yeah! Wow! Yeah!" , "Well...Boy, that was OK!" - pumm (blow).So you CAN HAVE IT  yet again. You CAN HAVE a universe, where you CAN complete a cycle of action and so on...OK?

Now we don't know, which one he goes to - I mean, he may have been in many games. He may go back to his own. But it doesn't matter. When he gets to an Earlier Universe, that is one, that he WAS AT CAUSE in, and one that he COULD achieve his purpose in, and one he COULD complete a cycle of action in, he'll feel good. You have actually rehabilitated him by directing him from this universe to his OWN universe, essentially, OR one that he at least feels "This is a good place", you see? He may feel, he knew some other people in it and he was playing with them - at least he feels CONFIDENT in it enough to "BE".

 So, that's the Earlier Universe part. A lot of people don't understand that, why that works. And it's very important on SUPER NOTs as well.

"Very interesting!"

OK? And it is true...now - because realize, that when you have the guy through Earliest Incident I, his Earlier Incident I is off, and any ones (BTs) that were added -put to him - that are now in his valence off - you get him out of that; HE IS A SINGLE BEING.

So, he's essentially an "OT on the 1st dynamic". A little bit more than a Clear, because a Clear doesn't NECESSARILY have to have the guys out of his valence (In a state that they are not in his valence anymore). He's just totally controlling them, because you find a lot of Clears that have to run their OWN Incident I. Because they were put together with others but they are running (controlling) them all. And they are going: "We won't ..." or "I won't mock up anything!" and they all go: "And we won't either." because they are exact duplicates. He says "Yep!" and they go "Yep!" but all at the same time as they are all in HIS VALENCE. So, actually a SINGLE BEING - from cutting off his Earlier Incident Is and the people stuck to him - you have something: a sort of - like an "OT on the 1st dynamic".

So, what is the first thing you want to do? I mean, the guy can't go, he is feeling "BTs" or he is "sad" or something. You have got to rehabilitate him a little bit, orient him to some first dynamic universe he had, give him a little space, get an Earlier Universe where he did feel ok, did feel safe, did feel good - Yes? And he gets "in valence". He is "in valence" here, BUT he is in an ALIEN ENVIRONMENT, so it essentially comes under the theory of DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT, ok?

You exteriorized him into the "3rd Universe" (the agreed-upon Universe) as a single being, but he is in the 3rd universe and he knows: "Jesus Christ! I don't feel safe here, man. Last time I jumped into this one (Universe), about 4 quadrillion years ago, I ended up as a BT or in somebody's picture" - you know? "Horrible, I was a Cherub, in a Chariot, some "Zaps" you know - to Hell with it!" So you have to get him into a safe environment so he can feel free again. Then he is free. And that's the key on that one.

Any other questions about OTIII and OT levels? No? I'll end up on that. "OT III handles" - and this is where we will bridge into SUPER NOTs right after this - but I just want to make you sure what OTIII handles - the beings who essentially, by the tone scale - right? - have not gone - well, you can look at it in several ways: they have not totally identified themselves with MEST, they have not totally lost some beingness as a being - in other words YOU CAN STILL COMMUNICATE TO THEM - even if they - they're thinking they're a "thing", they can STILL be a LIVE thing. They still - to some degree - retain Liveness, communication, and some sort of little line that you can get hold of them with, ok?

 

 

NOTS, SUPER NOTS O N L Y FROM HERE ON

 

So, you can spot them on the tone scale. Some of them are in various theta-degrees, -but they are - most of them - are below death on the tone scale - Ah, sorry! -ABOVE DEATH on the tone scale, you know? It's not always that simple though, because as you will find out soon enough in the next stuff, there IS other aspects to this, that come with other LRH datums, but basically on the tone scale you find these guys anywhere from death, above that, grief, propitiation, sympathy, lining up for auditing, you know? Or being really quiet, propitiating the auditor, even antagonistic, different things. But they are usually at tone levels above, yes? That's III.

Then you get the guys (Pre-OTs), who has gotten rid of all the ones, he can easily get into communication with. He hits the solidity wall or the solidity factor of NOTs. And the NOTs area is of course, where we have the guys BELOW BEING ABLETO BE A BEING. But there is a CONDITION on that and that's very interesting about NOTs, and how we found out that you can actually handle it without any reference partly to lists or L&N or anything else, right?

So, that's handled there on NOTs. (And I would actually put on that sheet (graph), that that's important back here: Earlier I and Earlier Universe (graph). Those are important buttons in the III case.) Now, you need to know ALL this data to handle, what you are going to run into on NOTs, because you are actually handling PCs all the time. Yes, PCs, OK? And these are the major things, that you get into.

OK, now we get to NOTs, NED for OTs. All right? And we still have this basic pattern (Incident I (graph), II, PT). Now, what's different about this? It's very interesting, this. I have to give you  some references, that sort of give the basic point on this NOTs stuff. You've all heard of the NOTs packs, I know. But I just want to point out a couple of things - besides of the tone scale - which is BELOW zero tone scale items: caring for bodies, hiding, all these different things here - numb, sort of being a ..."being objects"...victim - no, that's still above. Right - here we go: "Failure, Pity, Shame, Accountable, Blame (punishing other bodies), Regret (responsibility as blame), Controlling Bodies, Protecting Bodies, Owning Bodies, Approval from Bodies, Needing Bodies, Worshipping Bodies, Sacrifice, Hiding, Being Objects, Being Nothing, Can't Hide, Total Failure". You know what I mean?

So, and all the other scales apply too. Symbols, the Lower Awareness Scales, all that. But the one thing, I want to point out, is in the Axioms. (I wonder where I put that? Here it is.) Interesting Axioms here. This is Axiom 29, of Scientology Axioms: "In order to cause an as-is-ness to persist, one must assign other authorship to the creation than his own. Otherwise his view of it will (would) cause it's vanishment. "(or as-is-ness) "Any space, energy, form, object, individual, or physiological (physical universe) condition can exist only when an alteration has occurred of the original as-is-ness, so as to prevent the casual view" (or casual view) (it's casual here) "from vanishing. In other words, anything, which is persisting must contain a 'lie', so that the original consideration is not completely duplicated." You see? In other words: We know from NOTs, it's a MISOWNERSHIP thing. It's a misplacement, out of time, place, form, and event, and ownership.

But it's interesting to look at it from the viewpoint of Axioms. These are THETAN Axioms, apply to all Thetans. And to the case you're running on NOTs. So look at the fact there: that, if the guy (BT) is NOT blowing - then YOU HAVEN'T GOT THE TRUTH ABOUT THEM. It's probably this: you haven't got the truth about it. OK?

Now, what we're going over here are the most "usual truths", that you will run into with these guys, plus some more, which I'm going to tell you now, which we found out. It's very interesting about guys below zero on the tone scale and also very interesting about these guys, who are being "solids".

OK, so, let's take point one: Point one in SUPER NOTs is the ORGANIZATION of these guys. It's a very interesting fact, that run properly - if you're approaching the NOTs case properly - I'll tell you, how that's done also - but if you're approaching it properly, you'll find the thing is ORGANIZED. It has an ORGANIZATION to it.

Now it's the CRAZIEST ORGANIZATION, you may ever come across and you'll find this stable datum of LRH's comes (from Policy) out of it. And the stable datum is: "The point, where a thetan goes crazy (or criminal or out ethics), is where HE CAN NOT WORK, or do a useful job." And, you know, that we find every guy, who is in there - whether he is a good guy, bad guy, an SP, or whatever - when youwake him up and get him talking, in communication, you find out, that he is holding onto whatever sanity he has BY PERFORMING A DUTY.

Now this guy needs to be ACKNOWLEDGED  for that duty. No matter how crazy it is to you - but to him it's a very serious one - because if he COULDN'T DO THAT, he would be or go TOTALLY insane. You see what I mean?

So, if he's been a spot on the bottom of a coffee cup - "Well, somebody has to do it. "I mean, they always think they are - they are a REAL GOOD SPOT. It's an incredible thing, that these guys are holding on to their sanity, because of the fact that they'd been doing something. And whenever we acked for that - you know -that's where you have to acknowledge VERY WELL, when they give you a valence answer to: "What are you?" See? Yeah, it's almost like: "Hey, fantastic! You're being that!" "The whole time? Oh, wow!" You see? And they think, they're performing a useful action, NO MATTER WHETHER THEY'RE DOING BAD OR GOOD. We haven't got to that part yet. It's important to get THIS blown first, so you can handle them. But the guy reckons, he's doing that - and boy - if he DIDN"T believe that -(to THAT point he'll be sane) - but if not - he'll be insane. If you invalidate him or if you totally not-is it or don't believe, what he tells you - Ohh no! (He goes) nuts...you know? OK?

So I just want to point that out to you: There IS an organization there and no matter how crazy it is - like these cups, and saucers, and things on the table, say that might be a whole NOTs setting - a "tableau" - that you came across. You know - you ask the question and  - Boom! - first thing you see is a table with candles and so on. This is in an office and there's a desk there and so on and there is a chair - waiting for somebody. And: "OK, anyone being a spokesman for this group here?" - and you get this voice coming out of the candle flame: "I'm the flame of life!" - you know? You ask him: "OK, what's this all about? Any BPC here?" (or whatever). And the answer comes: "We're keeping the office ready."

YOU know now, they're all smashed down to little spots or something like that, but THEY have been keeping this office ready for eons and eons and eons and eons. You know? There used to be a big Thetan there or something and they all had been wiped out in one of those captures or something like that and then they got smashed, put together for 75 million years and have been keeping the office ready ever since - you see? Maybe all the office staff were herded into a room then vaporized with the Laser guns. So these guys were all - they took - you know - they tried to protect the boss' office, so they all grabbed part of the MEST as exterior Thetans. Then they got smashed together in the ice-cubes, put down on the planet, blown-up - Boom -totally! More incidents, more incidents, more incidents, and NOW they're just therein the NOTs case keeping the office, and they would go totally crazy, if they couldn't do that! You see? A whole organization.

So now, knowing this, you may find, and you WILL find, that knowing this - now of course it doesn't  all have to all go together THAT logically. I can't - I can't even think, how illogically it CAN go together, until you run the session, and you'll find out how illogically it is, right? Because this whole office may be under a button, which is on a uniform of somebody in another service, right? There HE is with a spear and there's somebody else being the spear, you know? And there's that guy in an airplane about 30.000 feet up and the guy with the spear sees him for the 1st time -as he got shot by the plane, and he's the "bad guy" (the one in the plane) - you know what I mean? That's how weird it can get.

But that whole thing holding together all the way down is an ORG BOARD, you see? And if you just run a little piece of it, you're NOT HANDLING THIS WHOLE THING. Now, this whole thing, that's an ORG BOARD, all the way down from guys with the evil intentions at the top. That guy - you know - and maybe HE got blown up at the SAME TIME by a missile! So, it's a mutual thing and all were captured put together - poom! - you know, whatever their story is - who cares? Or they got together later in that relationship, because they sort of "fitted" - an "out of valence fit" - you know? It doesn't matter. They ARE organized in that RIGHT NOW and they are all doing THAT - frozen in time like - what do you call it - "the Enchanted Moors" - the music, you know? They're FROZEN IN TIME. So, they're sitting there, doing that whole org board. It doesn't produce anything. It  just sits there. But each guy thinks, he has a duty in it and it's a frozen duty as well. The whole thing is frozen. So this guy is shooting those guys - this guy is resisting that guy - you know -and he's an officer and he has the spear and then his button - there is a GOLD BUTTON just shining in the sun and it's the last thing he saw - and underneath the button, he's got a group smashed in on Incident II. Maybe he found these other guys had a nice office and that's what he really wanted to be - an executive - so he's clutched it thru all time to his breast - some kind of weird computation.

In other words: There is some kind of crazy illogical A=A=A=A=A holding this whole Cluster mass of BTs and Clusters and solids all together. And so, if you run it knowing that, and you sort of "poke" into it at the level of the "flame on the candle", where you are not getting any as-is-ness and can't get these guys to sort of "breakup" or "get the little office mock up to dissolve", or them to realize 'who they are' -THEN you must suspect that SOMEBODY IS HOLDING THEM. Just somebody higher up the org board, you know? Do you see? So, that's one way to look at it -right? Just: "Is somebody holding you?" And if you have a "spokesman", there's only about two things, that can be wrong, once you get the thing talking - in communication - whatever it is - wherever you hit this. When you try to get into communication and you are not getting any blowdown, you're not getting any reads, the guy IS telling the story, but nothing is happening, you get a "what?" you get "who?" - but uhh - it's "sticky". So, the guy is EITHER NOT REALLY EXACTLYWHAT HE TELLS YOU HE IS - OK? - (it's says in the materials, it could be a picture you're talking to or it's only a via - another guy in the background - that's possible - but also it could be, you're talking to a Cluster instead of an individual.)

So, you're not handling the mutual incident yet, see? And therefore the mutual incident occurred before - so it's earlier - so it's holding this guy together - but HECAN'T OPEN UP AND LET GO OF THE REST. So it's also possible, that he's being HELD BY SOMEBODY ELSE. Even if he IS A CLUSTER. So, even a Cluster doesn't really break and you can't get the mutual incident going, as SOMEBODY ELSE IS HOLDING.

Now this is the key thing: That there IS an organization to this stuff. No matter how crazy. And it occurs IN the body, AROUND the body - WHEREVER you have this stuff. It's there. And a lot of it is by-passed. This is the interesting thing on these orgs - "NOTs Orgs" . They have - some of them - have persisted from here (graph) into PT, right? From Inc II into PT. Some of them have persisted from Incident Iinto PT WITHOUT EVEN BEING AFFECTED BY INCIDENT II. They were already "MEST", BEFORE they got into Incident II and they may have been the MEST on THIS planet in some other fashion or form or in some animal body at that time and weren't thought worthy enough to be put on the mountain - you can't put everything on the planet on the mountain - they just put the Thetans on the mountains. So, when they saw a dog running around - you know - or somebody's gold watch - they would STEAL it all the while rather than put THAT on the mountain, right? But the gold watch may have been a bloody Cluster, see? (or have a Cluster "being" it). And they may have come across of the "gold watch" in one of these "Hoovering" operations, where they suck up Thetans and stuff - you see? But they (the Cluster) still are a gold watch, see? Got missed going through the 36 days. But later got hooked up with a bigger being, who sucked some other guys for havingness and companionship after the incident. "Oh, there is a gold watch!" You know? He doesn't even realize, he doesn't have a BODY ANYMORE, you know? He still is floating around as a Thetan after II: "Oh, my watch, ohhh...". So he pulls in a little Cluster and it's a gold watch. This - this IS how it happens - so. Anyway...

"That's probably why there are something like two thousand nails of Jesus Christ's cross still existing on this planet."

Two thousand nails...yes. There are BTs on them stuck in that incident. OK. So, we have even found these guys, that were put together at Incident I and of course they haven't - they bypassed Incident II even, or Incident II DIDN'T EVEN AFFECT THEM and they've come up to PT (graph) totally asleep since then (Incident I), and totally messed up since then, right?

Now somebody asked about, "What about before that?" - you know - "Is it possible" -before the earliest Incident I on the case "to have had some kind of thing ?" Yes, it is. Because before they had Incident I, the guys (implanters) who were STARTING IT DID EXPERIMENTS ON THEM. In other words, they didn't just create this Incident I out of "whole cloth". They experimented with "How do you put together Clusters?" "How do you put together BTs?" - "To stick them together the best and to make them most influence the Thetan to get him to accept them but not recognize them being there?" You see? That's very well thought out.

"It's very vicious!"

VERY vicious!

"This is like the dramatizations of transplants now with body parts in the MEST Universe - transplantations."

See - you DO HAVE THIS "EXPERIMENTS" SITUATION BACK HERE (before Incident I) and all of the real "dummy" Thetans - I say "real dummy Thetans" - but they're just not very causative. They have just been sort of dead a long time. Some of them were actually the - shall we say - the "priming " Thetans they used in Incident I. What I mean by "priming" - you know, the old pumps, where you can't get the pump going unless you put water in it to start it. (That's called "priming" the pump.)

So, to start off with, the first Thetans, they wanted to put through Incident I, they had to have some already put together to push on him. In all these different experiments, the way to get rid of the ones, that had an "experimental" incident - we have found a few, that went through that place and they were sent together with some others, through all different kinds of incidents to experiment with, you know?

And some of them were part of a big Cluster, that sort of "came apart" and so they don't use it, and then this, and that, all kinds of real weird stuff. They WOULDN'T BLOW, because you had their Incident I, BUT they had an EARLIER SIMILAR INCIDENT. Not very many, but you DO find them. OK? And then - after  that -THEN they can do "Earlier Universe?" - or "Captured from Earlier Universe?"

Now, why do you find "the capture out of their Earlier Universe"? Because they were free and then they were CAPTURED OUT OF THEIR OWN UNIVERSE. So, it's almost the EARLIER SIMILAR of the "Capture" of Incident II! Apparently they were in their own space and doing their own thing around and/or they were playing somebody else's game, and guys (implanters) came around with some kind of "beams" and just - ffft! They were gotten INTERESTED and they then were going -wufft! - and it will pull them in, you see? Or they promised them some kind of -with a theta comm they would say: "Hey! Hey! Why don't you come over here and see? We got a nice..." - Zap! - you see?  Give him some kind of electronic -dzdzdzdz - and "What's up? What's up?" You see ? Big confusion thing. And then taken to some experimental area. It wasn't really a tailored implant or something - it was just the capture. And then they were "stored". They did some special kind of "Zaps!" to them to make them sort of nutty, and unconscious, and usable as Thetans. One visio we had on this, was a guy who was kept in a sphere, which had a magnetized interior. So they couldn't quite touch the wall of the sphere, but they couldn't get out of it either. So they were kept in a sphere like that, you know? And then put through the "experiments" to make Incident I.

OK, so that could be there on the track. Don't be amazed at anything you find, There is a total - well, you're starting into the AWARENESS OF INCREDIBLES on this level already. Now the thing I want to - that's the FIRST THING, IT WAS THE ORG, ORGANIZATION, OF IT, right? (Graph) It's ORGANIZED. The second thing is: THEREFORE, IF IT'S ORGANIZED, IT ALSO COMES OFF IN ACERTAIN SEQUENCE. And the other thing I noticed, that they DON'T DO elsewhere in programming cases, is what's mentioned as: "Don't worry if a guy's case doesn't run exactly like this, because it's not STACKED UP THAT WAY".

Well, that little statement in there - after studying it three times, we just passed over that statement. Now we were going to go down this list, and we started the D of P interview. What it says is to cover first these things on the D of P interview and see what the guy needs handled, yes?

This is VERY interesting. We found out in the D of P interview, that there was certain things, that read, you know? You have some questions like: "What is your attention on?" "What is your attention avoiding?" "Do you have any body problems?" "Any mental problems?" "Vitamin deficiencies?" "Any auditing, that you have your attention on from the past?" You know - you're just doing a typical D of P interview.

"It will give reads on this type of stuff and not so much on other. And - hmm - well, by Tech you should put these into order of reads." MEASURED UP EXACTLY ON THE NEEDLE AT THAT SENSITIVITY HOW MUCH CHARGE, THAT WAS FOR A SMALL FALL, LONG FALL, A FALL, AT THAT SENSITIVITY, WE WERE RUNNING, PLUS THE BLOWDOWNS, AND THEN ADD THEM ALLTOGETHER, AND PUT THEM IN A SEQUENCE.

And we did this, we sort of realized that: "OK, that must be what he's (LRH) talking about, this 'stack up' thing". So we still - at this point, there STILL wasn't very  that much importance to it - well, we said: "OK, we should have the MOST CHARGE FIRST. That's obvious, MOST REAL, MOST CHARGE". And then all of a sudden we realized, that by DOING EXACTLY THAT - NO MATTER WHAT YOU CAME OUT WITH AS THE TOP ITEM - ¦IT WAS THE TOP ITEM,¦  you know, what I mean? In other words: You START WITH THAT ITEM OR THATSUBJECT - say the guy says: "Well, you know, a pain in my hand, I've trouble with my hands." Or it could be "BTs with Out-Int" or "had bad auditing session with..."or "this is what never got handled" or "had too many..." or "when I, when I go to sleep, I get voices in the head ". You know, things like that. Whatever that subject is. Even if it involves the naming of a solid or a thing, that he thinks it could be, you understand? But it usually is a physical type of location, space, time, form, event type of thing or a bad condition. Whatever that is, it comes off at the D of P interview. We start that - it's amazing - but knowing that it's - what we will find on NOTs is really not our own case - but is the stuff, that's preventing us from being OT. It's amazing, but this phenomenon starts right there and with that particular subject - say for instance, it's "voices in the head", which is quite common. Guy goes to sleep and "voices in the head". Everybody has had it a little bit, and some people are troubled by it, so it's important. OK, let's say you start with that from the NOTs D of P. "First we are going to take up with you this best reading area, 'Voices in the head'. Any BTs or Clusters connected with that?" "MAN UHHH!...." Right away -wumm! - and right away - bumbumbumbumbum! - and you start getting this whole bunch of guys connected with that. And you pull out the PLUG - pumm! - The "plug" is a whole Org on it, and there may be another one and another one. And each session you do ONE plug, until you end up with a FTA. I wanted to say - you get a nice Floating TA, when you pull out ONE of these Orgs. And you get  another FTA on, when you've handled the subject (or a "broader" FTA at the end of that subject, when the Pre-OT is no longer troubled by that thought. Added by Capt. Bill)

This last FTA may be looked at as if it may be the same one, that you had in the LAST plug (and plus any copies and stuff). You get this FTA on the guy, but this time he goes..."And that's TOTALLY GONE." "Voices in there?" "NOTHING there." You know? It's totally gone, nothing there, NOTHING! So, we find out that -when you do that - and THEN the next item on the stack list - which may be "BTs with Out-Int" or something - then THAT one is really RIGHT THERE. No matter what the guy says, it's THAT item. He comes in with the TA high, at 4.5 or he says: "I have a problem, I have an ARC Break..." It doesn't matter WHAT he says. It really doesn't matter. It IS the next plug to be run from the stack!

We found out, that when you start a session, you don't have to check a Rud. You can, if you want to, but just ask: " What is your attention on?" (Even if the Auditor just says, "have you had a good night's sleep?" It doesn't matter what you ask, the Pre-OT will think there's "something there". - And you're going to find out, that that bloody thing is the first entrance point to another one of these plugs and when you pull that one out, you will then find, that he is now connected to the NEXT THING on the stack.) It's almost like you're changing the valence of the body every day! Hmm, you see?

At first, it's a body (or Pre-OT), that has problems with "voices in the head". The next day - when you've handled all that stuff - pfff - it's gone. Now it's one with "Out-Int problems", you see? And when it's gone, it's a whole new body (or Pre-OT) with a whole new thing. You see what I mean? (Note by Capt Bill: Plugs can be attached to the body or the Thetan, or both, just as BTs & Clusters can in OT III to the OT III case.)

And I know you've run into phenomena as well - oh, there is a lot of them! - but the interesting thing is here, that we could not figure out, why other people were having different experiences on NOTs, than we were. Because we've heard of these short "5ªminute-sessions" and people "blown-out" and "great cogs" and so on and we didn't have that. Not that we didn't have the cogs, not that we didn't have the blown-outs. But we sure didn't have "5-minute-sessions", you see? Sessions took from 45 minutes to even 3 hours in some cases. But it was always blowing a plug of these guys (or an Org Board of these guys) and making sure of course, that you didn't then start the next, because the next one will be sort of waking up, as you get that one gone. So, when you see the thing blow down, and when you get the Floating TA, just have the guy spot: "Anything left there?" "Any copies left?" "Tell anybody else, that's started up on this or got restimulated, that it's NOT THEIR ITEM, that they will be handled later, this does not apply to them." Whatever statement it is that - ffff - quiets them down. (In the case that the guy says: "My attention is on that one." "All right. Ask the one guy left there, does he want to say something?" Whatever. "Last call." You handle - fffft - and then his TA is just floating, and he says: "OK, they're all gone!")

So, it's great! When all during the session we had cogs, when all during the session we are getting...interest! It's very high. As long as you're running along the correct line, you can't get any losses and you're running it - very interesting, very fun to run. And it's very much making changes on the guy, you know, on his case and on the body. Because now he is progressing in areas, where he's before been blocked up with all this junk.

Now, Ulrich, he will tell you - I mean, he was saying, before he started his SUPERNOTs: "you know, I'd like to find out more about this Inc I. What really happened in Incident I." Well, that was not just an idle statement. That was NOT an idle statement. Yes! He had a whole bunch of these guys, that had a LOT of charge on this Incident I business and experiments and all this kind of stuff. Just because he said that - as an auditor (he thought he was saying it as an auditor) - actually he was, BUT the cases were saying: "Heeeeyyyy...", you know? They were almost like calling for his attention. His attention was - it was enough to where that stack came up real quick, you see? There it was! Right!

So, very interesting, it's a very interesting thing. There is: One, the organization. And the next is: It's organized, AND it's STACKED UP in a certain way. OK? You might say: "That is the ORGANIZATION and SEQUENCE of the case left to the Pre-OT."

Now, remember, all this case - some of it is attached to your body, some of it is attached to you as a Thetan through the track. But, a lot of this stuff is attached to the body or to other  Thetans, who were attached to other Thetans, who were attached to the universe or whatever, you see? A lot of  this DID NOT COME TO THE PLANET WITH YOU. Some of it is picked up HERE. You see? So if you get some mystery about it, say..."Oh, how come this Thetan or these guys were in Rome, when I know, that I was in England?" You know? It doesn't matter. They could have come through the body-line, through the genetic-line, they could have come in just from engrams, incidents, injuries, any kind of way, you could have picked them up. This planet is crawling with this stuff. Somebody could have intended it on the guy, I mean. We've found recently many examples already (on getting the more recent charges off of BTs & Clusters) of real witchcraft,  using Thetans, using Clusters as magical objects and symbols and so on, right? On this planet -  very recently so - a magic sword, you know, magic sword...consisting of a Cluster, which is taken from the body of a dead soldier, so it has heroic qualities. That kind of stuff.

"That's the point behind this Siegfried Tale. Where the sword is hardened by sticking it into the blood of a body."

They kept the courage of the dead body by pulling it out with a Cluster stuck on the sword. They actually did a little more: It was a necromancy type of thing, that the armorers did - they came up to the magicians and got their help. The magician says: "Come on you guys, I want some heroes here, I want some heroes here for a special job, it's the sword of a king!" You know? Then the armorer will beat it in (the Cluster) real hard. Clang ! Clang! OK, now they're REALLY IN THERE - humm -a "Singing Sword", right? The whole Cluster goes - "humming" - . This is what's been happening here on Earth. This is always "mystical" stuff, OK? So, that's the organization and that's the stack.

Now, any questions about that stuff? Because you can also find this by doing a little interview on yourself or down the list to find out what is reading the best if you've run out the stuff to "What next to handle?" It's almost comes, after a while, as easy as: "what's my attention on?" or "What's my attention avoiding?". See? So, there IS a sequence. And it's vital too, not to leave BPC on this or you get this "build up of the charge". We didn't have that. Because - if you don't pull a whole plug (graph) - this is the whole plug - and you contact the top of the Org Board, and you're working till this is all out, and you get the F/Ning TA, OK? Bumm. But if you just cut  the top off, just handle the top few guys, now you have an ORG WITHOUT A HEAD. So, it sort of destabilizes and goes into restim - bzzz - all over the Pre-OT.

You sort of have woken them up, you know, what I mean? You've taken off the SUPPRESS line or the HOLDING line on them, cut off the top of the Org, you see? So now you go and run something else and cut off another little bit of it, and so on. You now have this whole failed NOTs case - like you have more people out there going: "Uuuwwwagh, I don't want auditing anymore, uuuaagh...!" All of their whole case is humming! You know...? You see?

"They are leaderless."

"Erupting like a volcano."

Yes, but it's that they didn't pull all these plugs out completely and sort of keep the case in "PT". And it's exactly like it says; when you do pull out the thing, the whole thing, it sort of grows - boop - expands. It's bigger and bigger and bigger and you handle it in the room and you handle each thing and then you go on finding and cleaning the area. Then you have a few guys on the edges, sort of "waking up" in the other areas, but they are not in THIS area (where the plug was). So you just put them back to sleep, after handling the "last call" guys, looking for copies, whatever.

But gradually - if you just keep looking at the thing - you will see the other guys on the edge of the next plug - not even waking up, but they are just sort of going: Whoo -expanding!! But the space is clean now (or at least cleanER), and it's more CLEAR -it's like water - you know - it's like when you take a bowl of muddy water and pour clear water in it, quickly, you see suddenly clear water and then slowly the dark mud flows back in again. It's just like that. And it slowly goes muddy again. That's the viewpoint, you get of these guys - in the beginning of the case. Later the areas stay clear and clean.

Now I must tell you a very important thing (to sort of end up for you to ask the questions) and that is the thing, that I think most people have trouble with on NOTs (besides the Org and the Stack thing). It's the guys, which I have experience with, on LRH C/Sing. And I know, that it's not very well known around, and this is the guys, which he called "out of valence in R6", which are - this is, shall we say, (graph) along here, they where in "implanter valences". OK, LRH called - this is the guys, LRH called them "out of valence in R6". What he means by that - he calls the stuff, that was done on the Clearing Course (Implant) and those line-plots - he called themR6, just another name for bank items, R6. Routine 6 was one of the ways, they found them. They're called R6.

OK, so "out of valence in R6", what does that mean? That means: " The other guys, they GOT it. He's the one, who GAVE it." He is one of the bad guys. Now here you get all the PTS/SP-phenomena, evil purpose phenomena - what do you call - the "Laudable Withholds" and stuff like that - I mean "implanting" as a withhold: The guy thinks it's OK (or laudable) to withhold HOW MANY Thetans, he implanted, BECAUSE HE WORKED ON THE EVIL SIDE. So a withhold, to HIM, is like, he "let a Cluster get away" WITHOUT IMPLANTING IT, you know? He's withholding THAT, whereas on the other side THAT would be a "good thing" to do. But he withholds this from his boss: "Don't let Xenu find out, I let them go!" You see, what I mean?

So you have these guys, that are "out of valence in R6". Now, this is where it gets interesting, because you find out - funny enough - that they've MISSED Incident II by being in the - implanter Org, or (graph), when they were renegades or some of the guys, that were helping Xenu in Incident II. Now this is where it becomes important again on the organization basis to understand "Sector 9" and "Revolt in the Stars". It's where, it becomes important. Because now you get the knowledge to start handling these guys, who are out of valence in R6 - or let's say - worked on the implanting side. Because you DO FIND THEM - and the reason, I say you'll find this, is because - on these stacks (and I think, that is a lot of the reason, that people are just "chopping off" and just doing a little "by passing side step") a lot of times these guys are HOLDING THE WHOLE STACK or holding one whole plug.

 

** End Side 2 of Tape #4 **

 

This is 22 August 1985, this is side 3, Tech Briefing #4. It's a Confidential SUPERNOTs Briefing. And the last thing I was talking about here was that, we have just gone over the organization aspect of these dead BTs and so on, there is an organization there, and the stack up of the case.  How you find out by your D of P interview, or by your own assessment of things, that are going on, or you just run into it naturally at the beginning of the session, if you really get aware of it.  But the whole principle is to pull out the whole stack - or the plug part, that was connected to that and you run it by going up to the top of the Org Board first and then handle it all the way down. We find it happens much quicker that way. You may go on for 45minutes handling the guy at the top of the plug and then 15 minutes later, you blown a thousand BTs out - ffftt  you know? Because he was HOLDING ALL OF THEM and they  all actually couldn't get out of that without a lot of effort, because his intention is on them (either good or bad intention, it doesn't matter). The guy IS HOLDING. Because he's an old Commander of an army troop and he has all his soldiers, he's holding. Or a father and therefore he's holding his family or something, who knows? But we could have an EVIL guy there, a suppressive one. And that's what I am talking about.

Now, because this is the 3rd thing that's not covered very well in the materials. But it IS covered in C/Sing Tech and it is covered in PTS/SP Tech, Evil Intention/Evil Purpose Tech, and some of the  LRH's C/Ses on the Advanced Levels having to do with people "out of valence in R6", which means, they were the guys, who DID THE IMPLANTS and therefore didn't receive them. And you find combinations: The guys who got BETRAYED, after they did a lot of implants and they got through them (implants) themselves. And they will stick up and won't blow. You get them through their Incident II and they sort of still have charge or something like that. They say: "I deserved it" or something. "I was betrayed". And they are sort of "mean" about it, you know? And you get the idea of Missed Withhold with them or a Dirty Needle or something. Maybe a little small Rock Slam, you know? "Hey, were you working with the other side?" "Oh, hmm, hmm, you know, I was a pilot, you know, hmm, hmm...., hmm, hmm, I did drop the bomb...: Then you get, of course you have to get him to tell: "How many times you did that?" and so on. A lot of times they take no responsibility: "I was just doing my job!" - you see, everybody has a job. ("Bomb the Thetans!") - just a job. So you have to get this, you get it off, and you still maybe don't get any needle action, (because you've) not getting it ALL off. So then you have to get, either that the guy is totally overwhelmed and in the valence of the SP, so you have to know: "Who are the SPs in this business?" You know, Xenu, Chu. Chi, all these guys. If he was in banking or in psychiatry or the army, he was working for one of these guys. It's true. That is the names, that come up out of the case, you see? And we even had some guys stuck - like guys we have found, who say: "So what, I did my job, followed orders." NOTHINGHAPPENING. "Evil Purpose?" "No, that was just a job." NOTHING READING ONTHE GUY, right? Say: "PTS to Xenu?" - wham! - big read- "Whoo?  Don't tell him about this!" "I'm afraid you guys were checking up on me. No, I did my job. Who are you? What do you want?" The guy totally comes out of it, you see? He, and a lot of guys come out of this thing, because they thought YOU'RE MORE IMPLANTERS, that are "checking up on them". They think you are the implanters checking up on them, to see if they are still keeping their "Shut up!" (silence). You see, what I mean?

So always remember, you may have to use that old auditor process: "Who would I have to be to audit you?" Especially for guys, who are - even if you get him in comm - and he "Uuaargh, uuaargh, so what?" And he keeps going silent, you know?

Might need: "Who would I have to be to audit you?" And he pops up and says: "Xenu!" or "Chu!", "Chi!". You know, one of these guys, who run the thing. Or some of them are more "religious minded" and may say: "God".

So you have to remember, that when you are dealing with these guys, who are either "resistive cases", because they were in earlier therapy, or because they were on the overt side, and therefore they have a lot of withholds and have lots of "out of valence shifts" from the time, when they were really in their OWN UNIVERSE. They have lots of "out of valences". They were into the "knocking out thetans" stuff. So you have to get them INTO SESSION. And first they have to RECOGNIZED YOU AS AN AUDITOR. So, just to get him in comm is not enough sometimes. You have to find out, WHO YOU HAVE TO BE TO AUDIT HIM?

Then you have to handle the overts, they did. And if there is no charge coming off of that and it won't free him up on the track, even after you get "how many times? "and all that stuff, you have to find out their PTS situation. Or they are withholding because of some association within the organization, or you can go back and date: "When did you start that?" or "What is the date of that evil purpose?" You can date the evil purpose. He says: "Yeah, it's all right to "do in" thetans - it's OK." "OK. When did you make that?" And then you can go - you know - "What were you BEFORE you made that purpose?" - After you get charge off the purpose. You usually find out HE HIMSELF was either "convinced", "PRed", "blackmailed", "implanted", some how, in the normal criminal fashion of Xenu and his boys, MADE to do that - Very much like the Russian do with their population - but on a much broader scale, you know?

You know, "If you don't do this, you will be one of those!" - you know - an ICECUBE... And boy, we found that these guys, who PROTESTED ANY PART OFDOING INCIDENT II, were marked down and they were put through. Either there or later. Anybody who sort of went "You know, maybe it's not a good idea to do."...It's always another guy reports him. So when he comes in, he's called into the office - Zap! - you see? So he (Xenu) didn't allow anybody to talk. "You want this to happen to you?" So he kept the lines tight. The renegades, you know, if they betrayed Xenu, then they would get SMASHED. So  OF COURSE they got a big withhold. They got the overts, they got the withhold, they got the PTS situation, they got the betrayal....EVERYTHING. You see it right there on the case, as you run these guys.

But if you know this data in here, you can unravel it, because you can throw a few questions in there about PTSs, about evil purposes, about "Whom you work for?", and you can get the read, you see? And you can unmock it. OK, so that's the little hint on the "out of valence guys" and LRH's C/Sing style.

Now, why are these guys holding on a lot of these stacks? Very simple. A lot of the mare holding the stacks, because they are more powerful than everybody else in the stack. Why are they more powerful? Because they didn't have the Implant with the same intention or they didn't have it at all. They got it in a later Mutual Incident or an earlier one or something like that. But they weren't in that particular Incident II. They may have got dumped down to the planet later by betraying the renegades, they may have got just shot and dumped on the planet, because they thought they may be a security problem, you know what I mean? They might have been left there, so there wouldn't be any "witnesses".

So, while some were there, busily doing the other guys in and then, after that was over, they said: "OK, get rid of those guys, we don't want any "witnesses" - rat-tat-tat-tat (machine guns) - you see? That's it. So they got left on the planet. They may even have gotten put through the "36 days" but rarely - sometimes you don't find these guys had the Volcano Incident. They haven't had the explosion of the H-bomb. So they are sort of still more "competent" as a thetan. They are still "there", not so much "made into a Cluster". So they were more powerful.

So, they sort of "take over" a thing and some of them PRETEND to be good guys. This is another thing - they would say: "Well, you know, I'm a good guy, I'm a good guy." (Apart from HOLDING on to these other guys in the plug, they're ready to do anything, that you want.) But you can get the indicators of Dirty Needles, teeny Dirty Needles, and some times little Rock Slams, stuff like that. When you get a Rock Slam, you can just date/locate the evil purpose and you can usually find them.

Now, some of this stuff goes all the way back BEFORE (Incident) II (graph) and you find the guy "out of valence" in (Incident) I as well! This is interesting, because that means, that he came like this (graph), and he may have been out of valence in(Incident) I, he may have done (Incident) I, come all the way down the track here(graph III), he got nailed by the implanters back here, for betraying them, doing Incident II (I) wrongly on people - letting some escape from Incident II (I) - (I'm sorry - from Incident I).

 But thetans have gotten out of Incident I for not doing it properly on them. We found guys that were only "half-done" on Incident I. They didn't have the full thing or they escaped from the full impact of the snaps, you know? By avoiding various control mechanisms on them of electronic charge, and so on. And if the guy, who was running it - and they have thetans actually running this stuff - who were...who were supposed to make sure, the guy was in position before you "zapped" him with the snaps, you see? And if he wasn't quite in position, then the snaps and Clusters all formed up here (a bit off target) and then the guy wasn't quite in it. And so he comes out sort of "dragging" the Cluster along with him on the time track. And he "sees" it! And we had a guy, who was dragging it like a trailer. He says: "Yeah, I can't get rid of the thing, because I don't know what it is. But it makes pictures for me." You know, what I mean? Then you go back (to Inc I) and find out he was "missed" and then nearby him is another guy, who was - who WAS the guy who did the "errors" and right after he went through, they snapped this other guy through it, because he was on the bad side of Incident I and he messed up. Same Xenu pattern here: BETRAY EVERYBODY!

So, he was an operator here(graph II), an operator in Incident I. And these guys are sort of "out of valence in Incident I", see? But then later they got betrayed and thrown through. But you find out, when they RUN THEIR INCIDENT I, they still feel "evil", they still have an R/S, they still...they don't "blow" really. "Earlier Incident I?" "Earlier Universe?", doesn't work on them. Why not? Still CHARGE, evil purpose - bum bum - all of this. And THERE you have to get AGAIN the PTS/SP phenomenon or the evil purpose, because that's...Before he came into the game, he may have had a good purpose, then he got recruited by Xenu, turned it into an evil purpose. You see? Or he might have formed the evil purpose by saying: "Hey! That's the way to do it! I want to work with those guys!" You know?

They really caused some effects though. Because back in those days - I mean - it was like - it wasn't looked at necessarily as a  - because it was the first time, that was done, it wasn't looked at how horrible it was, you understand? Back there, people were more - they were free of track before that, so they didn't have pictures automatically and so on - they thought: "Hey, that is a good game, you know, let's "zap" all these guys and confuse them!" You see, what I mean?

So, he could be "out of valence" in INCIDENT I AND INCIDENT II or he could be "out of valence" in ONE OF THEM. So again you find them hard to blow, after you get way back here (Inc I and before)  and then ask them: "Who are you?" and he says: "Oh, I'm a nobody" you know? OK, he had a failed purpose. You know? Can't do what he wanted, you know? And "Earlier Universe?" "No." And he's sort of a "Nothing". He is still there and he's still "holding on" there or something. And nothing is really blowing down on this guy. Nothing is getting "loose".

"What were you doing there around Incident I time? Were you connected in DOING Incident I?" You get a little read there on him - dididid (small R/S) - he's coming along, you know? Then you ask: "OK, what's that? What's the story there? Come on, what's the BPC?" "Oh, well, you know - I wanna be free, but if they find out, that I'm talking to you....you know? They won't let me go free - NO!" You know? All kinds of computations come out of that and then finally it opens up, he gives you the whole story, and you say: "OK, and what were you before that?" You see? Then he gives you: "I only was a lonely simple little guy. I came in. I wanted to play a BIGGAME. I wanted to be a BIG GUY - and they promised me a big post..."

So - you blew him loose of the evil purpose, now he CAN go back to his own universe. He did have to do his purpose - you see, what I mean? He got a "big post", he got to play a "big game", and he got....he THOUGHT he failed, because they betrayed him, they put him through the Incident himself. But basically he's been a "solid" ever since Incident I. A lot of these guys - when they wake up - they are just -"zip" - from THEN TO NOW NOTHING HAPPENED IN BETWEEN TO THEM. They are just very surprised to find themselves 4 quadrillion years later and they have to be oriented. Or sometimes they are very clean and they know, where they are and everything like that. Or you single them up and there is nobody connected to them, but they sort of hang there outside the body or outside the room and sort of just "hang there". And you ack them and he still "hangs" there - "Ack!" - and you get sort of this puzzlement, you know? And then you realize: "Oh, the guy is not oriented." Just orient him, you know, he got the cog, he got the "own universe "business, he got "who he is". But he doesn't know what to do. He is sort of "brand new". You have to orient him: "That is planet Earth outside - right here on Earth was Incident II, 75 million years ago - ..." "There were some bad guys running Incident II, that's what it was, and so on, so this is planet Earth 75 million years later than that. We're trying to rehabilitate all these guys and all that stuff like that."

"Wow, yeah, yeah, I see! Wow! What a game! What are these things...?" Some of them have NEVER SEEN A MEAT BODY. They've only seen DOLL BODIES. Incident I was run with doll bodies. In fact there were a lot of  exterior beings at that time, at least until they got  captured or "PRed" into it: "Hey, experience the viewpoint of that doll body" - you know? "They're pretty fine, they're amazing, they're nice." "There is the thing - get in there - pshsst!" - you see?

So the whole idea was to suppress thetans and OTs down to a lower level of not being able to as-is, not being able to postulate, not being able to operate. To start them "being" or "pretending to be" MEST, and so on like that. All the things OPPOSITE to the things Scientology is trying to do..

So, back here is the other incident, you find "out of valences", right? (Inc I) And by the way - any questions on the "out of valence in R6" or "out of valence in Incident I"? Remember, these guys are holders - a lot of them are holders - they are either HIDING or you find these guys sort of feel "withholdy" or some feel "mean", you know? So, you get him IN VALENCE, OK? You may have to use any or all of that(given above) as well. One other thing: This is why we don't see the repair list so often on NOTs.

At certain points on the track...if the guy's...if you contact the guy in PT - you know -you get him AWAKE and contact him, then by his ANSWER on the FIRSTVALENCE QUESTION, you can usually tell, where his charge is going to be. If he gives you an answer, that is a piece of MEST - right? - you are going to find out, that he is usually having to be taken through all of these steps, all right?

If he is...giving you an answer as - after he wakes up from being a..."whatever" -you know? - he was a spot, and you woke him up and you say: "What are you?" and "Whaat...? Well, I was a spot, but now I'm really an Officer." If he gives you a body identity or a body name - if it is a meat body or he gives you a picture of meat bodies - then he's usually somewhere - he's going to be stuck in between Incident...between from NOW BACK TO INCIDENT II, right? (graph II) And sometimes BACK OF THAT. You are going to find charge of course, but you basically - Bang! -(chart) - you will ALSO have charge on INCIDENT II on this guy, because he's still dramatizing MEAT BODIES, and if his incident was ON EARTH, he definitely WAS in that (Inc II) - all right? But if he wakes up, and is giving you a sort of "space opera" thing - you know - where there were robot or doll bodies and zipping around in very fast ships between different planets and stuff like that - it may be, that's his BPC in that area somewhere - you know? Where he got "zapped" with a laser or whatever. He may have come all the way through this thing unconscious and he may be back of that somewhere on the track, where he has to find his true identity. In other words - especially with doll bodies and stuff like that - we get him into that stage there (chart) usually back around Incident I and from Clearing Course stuff back (graph) - 1 quadrillion, 2, 3, 4, something like that.

 Although there WERE meat bodies at that time, it was NOT, it's NOT THE BIGTHING there. Anybody knows there is a much bigger status in having their "doll bodies". So, anyway, it's not an invariable rule, but you can sort of spot, where the guy's charge is going to be. So, if a guy is telling you: "Well, yeah, I had a nice doll body at one time, and man, they fucking got me and - bla bla bla - that's my BPC.""I lost my whole game there." - and so on. And you say: "OK. Well - must have an earlier incident. (Somewhere between Incident II and Incident I). Whenever it WAS a doll body and you ask: "Do you have Incident II?" - you won't get it. So DON'TPULL THE GUY UPWARDS ON THE TRACK. WRONG WAY. He's already flowing forward in time. Usually it's Incident I.

Whereas if the guy's giving you:  He was a "priest" or a "conquistador" or some kind of a "space guy in a body" or a... you know - any kind of thing in a meat body - then you are going to say: "OK" - (after he's finished telling you his BPC or answered a few "What's?", and you're not getting any cog on the "Who?") - and then you say: "OK, let's go get Incident II from the Capture." And he will find: "THAT"S where it's at!"

Also, we've woken up guys, who were a whole army troop, or a whole troop of religious people, and they still thought they had their bodies. And they woke up fully on running the Capture of Incident II. They are waking up, and you still see this funny "solid object", and then they wake up and you see this thing come apart - the solid object disappears - until you get this impression of thetans around, and little mock-ups - a group of mock-ups around and these are their BODIES and they're all going: "Yes..." - straightening up their clothes. But then they suddenly realize, they don't have any bodies anymore!

The thing happened so fast, that they - they're just coming "alive" again - you know -like he (LRH) says on the tape - on the revivification - he's revivifying now, he's coming right out of that incident. He still thinks, he has his body there. You know, these people straightening up their coats, and all that, but it's only thin mock-ups. They are not REALLY there. But when you see that, you now that the guy is still stopped on that valence of "being a body". He's still carrying along a thin mock-up.

And then when the guy has come to the point of being a thetan and he realizes: "Yeah...yeah, I'm really me!" "I'm a thetan!" - BUT he's STILL NOT BLOWING, then you can suspect basically, that his charge is going to be back here in (Incident I) -people stuck to him, or he was on the other side of it, or he had a failed purpose -like that, you see? It's more or less way back in this area.

Or we will find some guys, who had missed (Incident) II. All right, they had missed Incident II - were pretty clean - like a Natural Clear or something like that and later the guy got suckered by something on Earth or something in the Universe and got thrown down onto Earth by some spaceship accident or some warfare or something, that the implanters laid on him and he got captured, implanted, thrown down here. And they have been out of valence ever since. But when you wake them up, they're immediately a thetan. They KNEW, they were exterior before that. You do find it -and it's not too rare. But those guys would usually be running around and pick up bodies. Some of them did get fooled into "being" a body. And usually because they had never spotted their own EARLIER INCIDENT Is. So they had with them OTHER PEOPLE who were smashed  and they went with it: zap-zap-zap-zap, see? The other guys got caught up in the pictures and they just went with it. They're "done in" by their own valence.  So, we do find guys, that when you wake them up, they are - have theta abilities, right away - zip! - they are Clear almost, or are Clear. But they are VERY EASY to run. I mean - that's not the problem.

The problem is: Where is the guy when he's giving these answers like: "I'm your evil nemesis" or "I'm a bird" or "a horrible beast" - or something like that. Oh boy!

Then you probably have got to look at it, as the guy maybe has charge on the Middle Ages - you know? - some of this religious symbolism or something, which "earlier similar" locked onto an Incident II picture - you see, what I mean? Then he won't answer the rest of the valences questions. He's just giving you a "36 days" picture. IT'S NOT WISE TO LIST AND NULL, BECAUSE THAT JUST BY-PASSESCHARGE ON OTHER GUYS.

It's wise to just know from C/Sing that here's this guy. He is stuck in a fucking religious mock-up. He's giving you the stuff with "hoods" and "capes", and "beams" and all this kind of stuff - you know - and he is saying: "Evil perversions, yes, I must keep all these people from going into evil perversions." And so on like that. He's just" fixed" and he won't give you the evil purpose - no date, nothing like that. So, you say: "OK, you have BPC on Incident II - 36 days picture of that"  - you now? And you just - poom! put his ATTENTION on it. "75 million years ago." - poom! - and that was it - psst - it vanishes.

You see, these guys are very easy - ONCE YOU GET THEM IN COMM TO INDICATE THE THING, YOU ¦SEE ¦ FROM C/SING, WHAT IT ¦MUST¦  BE. You see? What it MUST BE. Knowing the 36 days - pictures of devils and all these different kinds of things. All the things you see dramatized on television today - it is one of those. Boy, the guy has got charge on that. So, he won't get loose until he runs that BPC out of Incident II. And you might find, that he's on the OVERT side of it. Before he GOT it, he was GIVING it. So, if he doesn't go easily from(Incident) II back to (Incident) I, then you KNOW, that he's got some charge in between and usually RIGHT THERE. He was GIVING it, before he GOT it. And he "pretends" - we have seen some guys totally - fft - like this (flinching) - trying to "get away from responsibility". You've probably seen that.

He says: "Oh! Yeah, I was captured. Right here on "Terra" (Earth). Thrown through the thing and - bup! - Yeah, that was Inc II - yeah - Ohh - feels a lot better. What's next?" And then you would say: "Incident I" (Nothing) "Huh?" "Is there some more charge there in Inc II?" "Did you tell me ALL about that or is there some more By Passed Charge?" - You got a little read - and you say: "Yeah, what IS that? What were you DOING right around Inc II?" - "Ahh - well - uh - uh -." "Where you on the OVERT side of it?" - "Ahh - well - haha - yes."

Then you get off this charge. And then: "When did you make that purpose?" Andthen you have to get THAT off, BEFORE the guy can get back to Incident I and seeit, if he needs to - BEFORE he can get off the other guys, that are stuck to him.

So, what you are doing essentially here in SUPER NOTs is: YOU ARE C/SINGEACH CASE, AS IT COMES UP! And that's what we saw immediately - that what you are doing is: C/Sing YOURSELF - by finding what the STACK is in your area. C/SING the FIRST READ, or CONTACT with BTs & Clusters, you get in the STACK - which is the "Org" aspect of it - (You have to know a little policy on that -org policy DOES apply to Plugs) (And there is this data here, about how the organization of the "bad guy" is stacked up, and so on - as well.) Because it's all Org Board knowledge, but BASICALLY, it's FINDING THE LEADER of this group. Getting who is "holding" who. If you're not getting a result, when you first contact -you find out, WHO IS HOLDING HIM, and so on. Or, if it's a Cluster, then: "Who is the spokesman for the Cluster?" and: "What is the Mutual Incident for the Cluster?" If you can't get it this way, then: "WHO IS HOLDING THE CLUSTER?", and so on.

Remember, a Cluster is a LESS ABLE THING than a single being, so always suspect that there IS a holder. "Somebody holding?" "Suppressed?" "Hiding?", but DOINGIT anyway. They may be outside. They may be somewhere else. OK, so you get the stack on your own cognition. Then you get your area of ATTENTION. And you get the Org - ORGANIZATION. You start out, go up to the top, and work down. All right? Being ready to handle, or "C/S" any of the guys you find. And expect up near the top to find the "implanter", the "out of  valence in R6".

Any guys, that are "out of valence in R6" and any guys, that may be "implanters operating around this area", could be holders on these things. And these guys - as LRH says - they got VERY SOLID because of their overts. True - but ALSO because of their LIMITED TRACK OF BEING ANY KIND OF A CAUSATIVE BEING. They're always working for SUPPRESSIVES. So he WORKED for a suppressive -what happened - he BECOMES suppressive. Right, and so the guy ends up being a suppressive at a VERY LOW LEVEL - HOLDING on to a Cluster - who is holding a BT - who is holding other Clusters - and so on.

So, it's not uncommon to find these "out of valence in R6" guys. Not uncommon at all. We haven't yet had to run Power on any of them, which is interesting. But I'm sure you can find them so "stuck in", that you have to run Power on them. I've run other people on Power, but we haven't found any in our auditing, that we had to run Power on yet. But if they just got so STUCK in ANYTHING or the earlier thing they had, they just got so STUCK in the incident, it was PT FOR THEM, and so on, or NOTHING woke them up - then it's a process, that CAN WORK on ANYTHING, you see?

But to run Power, you do need to be in comm with the guy. You CAN do it by straight intention back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, till the guy finally blows loose of it, giving him the Power command - which is also getting him in comm, you know - because it's asking for rudiments anyway, it's asking for EVERYTHING, with a beautiful Tech of ONE PROCESS, that handles everything on the guy all the way down, to where the engram stuck him in. You often WILL need the Power Processes. Especially "Power Process 6": "Tell me an existing condition." "Tell me how you have handled it?" It's for the RESISTIVE case.

The other thing, I just wanted to mention quickly, was, that there is a lot of data in "Revolt in the Stars", which will enable you to understand the actual organization, the factors, that went in to producing Incident II. It tells about Xenu's "3 Phase Plan" and all of that kind of stuff. PHASE ONE: Assassination of Loyal Officers. PHASE TWO: Blowing up the bases of the Armies of the Loyal Officers of the troops, so they could not respond, and then - PHASE THREE: Capturing the populations, bringing them all to Earth and blowing them up. And it gives details of how they did the transports and so on. They just don't mention the ice-cubes and they don't mention the implant. OK?

So this is exactly what happened. And they give a list of "bad guys" and the financial thing, how it was financed. Also the planets where they came from - or at least the stars where they came from. You can't maybe get the name of each planet with the stars, but we've already found guys that want that. To get more oriented to what happened or to who were DOING the capture. One said: "Yeah, I came from Antares." You know, they will give you that. So, it's good to know, what these names are, because it gives more R (Reality) with the guys you are handling.

These are important things, that I think you have to know about. This is that first, thetans are HOLDING ON to a beingness, you know? They are afraid of becoming molecules and cells. That's what they fear. But even then, we find out on lower levels of these stacks, thetans are holding - there's the guy who is right over the cells and molecules and he monitors them. They blow up by inspection almost, after the other valence stuff is gone. But they're down there and they haven't  quite become a molecule or cell. And they are still thetans and they are still holding -  they are the "monitor" of those cells.

Now this, this other thing is very interesting to Doctor Prinz: This is probably what prevents medicine from working and so on  like that - because THEY are being held further up the line by SUPPRESSIVES. So they are holding the  cells, so that the blood stream for instance, in that area, will not flow. So medicine can't work, because this guy is putting intention there: "Don't let anybody in!" You know? You see, what I mean? OK.

And those are the key points of this thing. One is the organization point, and then using it to handle plugs, stacks, and seeing the transparency build up even before the space closes in again. Even so it's always getting less solid. And recognizing that you have, or are going to run into some people, that have these problems of OT III in restim and By Passed Charge in particular, right? And that you have to get some of them - you have to get them into comm by letting them tell: "Who you would have tobe to audit them" - and blow any charge on that. Or recognizing that there's a sort of comm of a name: "Aha, that's a ... that name is a bad guy in Incident II". "So, you worked for a bad guy in Incident II?"

Now, the auditing is a bit - because you're dealing  mostly with - here you're not dealing with a TOTAL COMPOSITE CASE.  You're taking up individuals out of that, that essentially may be hung up by Incident I and II, but not much else. So, they -when you are dealing with them, you can sort of bypass maybe Grades... some of Dianetics, Grades, and so on like that. But not all of them, sometimes you need to get them in comm, you need to get problems or overts handled, if they need and so on. But the valence process, by itself, because - basically you start with the valence process, then you find you can't go any further, you use this data, and then again you can end up with the valence process, after you got all his charge off. Then the guy finally realizes, - for example, you are working with the guy and right away you know it's a waste of time. You ask the guy: "Who is he?" He's "The devil" - "Who's he?" "The devil". And "Who was he, before he became that?" "Ah, I was a picture of the devil." You know? Come on, this is going to on forever...right? You say: "What's the By Passed Charge? Is it Incident II? Another Incident?" "OK, I see, it's II. Good. Was it a 36 days picture?" - you know?

"Oh, oh, oh, I see, I was fixated on a picture of the devil." "Good, OK." "What's your capture?" Right away you got it. Just by pushing him back to that time - 75million - pumm, pfft, tshh - you see? YOU KNOW THAT. I mean, you don't have to go fooling around with this thing and by pass charge on this. You spot the guy -pumm - back to the incident. It's very easy, you see.

So, you can do a C/SING ON THE CASE, AS YOU SEE IT. And you can always ask: "Holder?" And - the guy must be stuck, you see? Ask for the Holder, "being held by something?" Find out where he is, OK? All right. He will still be there. He's not going anywhere else. Don't worry.

We've had a funny experience of a guy going through a wall, when he was trying to blow, and he just stopped. He couldn't get through the wall. He had to spot, that there were two more Earlier Incident Is, that were stuck on him IN HIS VALENCE. And WITH THEM he couldn't get through the wall. So we blew him loose of those and they ALL got through the wall. You see?

That just shows you, that if you understand the track and you understand the (OT)III, and you understand the basic, where the case is "stacked up". That's a VERYIMPORTANT LINE in NOTs. So if you understand that, you can run it very successfully with a lot of interest all the time, because you are always gaining data about the whole track, and a lot of Incidents. And you're EXPANDING the PLUSGAIN, the POSITIVE GAIN now, not just the "negative gain" to you. But the positive gain to you is: "My God!" "Wow!" And you become informed and causative on the other dynamics. And you find all the things, that caused aberrations on every single dynamic. And you KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH.

So, the guy gets Clear on all Dynamics, and OT on all Dynamics. It's possible. I mean, this is HATTING for thetan who is running through this auditing either as a PreOT or as a Solo Auditor. You understand VERY MUCH.

So, to see for yourself what happened with thetans. All the Dynamics we have inhere. There's thetans, who have entire 4th and 3rd dynamics in these plugs. You can have entire populations, groups, towns, army corps, all kind of different jobs, populations, in there - messed around on Earth - put through Incident II.

And before that, when you get back (on the track), and if you really understand Dynamics 3 and 4, then you go plenty above that. When you're going back here(chart) and start doing the stuff around Incident I, you start finding out, what all the considerations are about Dynamic 5 and 6 and 7 and 8 and 9 and 10. Because back there, they were doing a more of a thetan's game. They were thetans and doll bodies, but not so many meat bodies and they experimented over here with these little woody things, that were only plants, and help that to grow up into trees and so on.

Remember the old Dianetics Axioms: Theta, Lambda, Phi. Theta is Theta. Lambda is the body form, and Phi is MEST. But as you get these guys through Phi, then finally come up from Phi, through Lambda to Theta and then - pffft - then they are single, and they're back in their own universe, OK?

So, whatever happens, that's the beauty of the level. I can not understand how people get bored with it, and so on like that, if they're running it right. I don't expect sessions to be short, right? I don't expect people to get bored with it, because it's very interesting all the way through. And you think: "Well, I'm not running my own case." But it IS your own case, as you are responsible for freeing it.

If people think, it's not interesting, they must have missed something about it, because it's always interesting to find out what's in the next plug. Like that: You're always getting knowledge and you have to confront several very evil and very - so to say - unconfrontable incredible things on the track, when you run these things. And that makes you ready for the next level after SUPER NOTs. OK?

So, now, any questions...anybody have any questions about what we said? Or on what I am briefing you on here? And what will be the reference data, that are talked about? Any other experiences, that people would like to say or that seems to fit in with this? I know you've been running NOTs. You've been running NOTs as well. So we - does this seem to summarize most of the important points you...go after? i:'--ú

"Yes, it does. I still have one other question: I mean, I don't really...I don't know, that they really blow on Earlier Universe."

Well, they do if it's an Earlier Universe far enough back.

"I wonder about the phenomena of Out-Int. When you are quite a way on the level of this. And they don't have it anymore...a time track. But still, there is that Out-Int phenomena, which...which I don't understand."

OK. Well, first the reference on that  is where he talks about flows, stuck flows...

"Yeah, this is the point: stuck flows is the problem I have - stuck flows and the understanding of the thetans. Stuck flows and Out-Int. It's maddening."

Well,  he said, that the stuck flow is the sort of an underlying reason for Out-Int. They're stuck on one of these flows, right? Now, what we're dealing with here is what we're calling "Review Auditing". See? Because the "Int" problems are usually a Review Case. What I'm talking about here is the major stuff, you run on the track. That is always handled. But in Review, we have certain things, that don't fit in the usual line-up of auditing. You see? So, this is the sort of stuff like Out-Int and when you have to prepcheck him or you have to do a repair on a guy. A certain kind of repair auditing. A specific thing on that case, right?

So Out-Int is basically a flows problem. You do handle the grade chart with flows...

"With Out-Int on different flows? You mean, I have to do all that!"

Mhm, I understand, I understand. What I'm saying is: It comes under a different category of ability or disability of a thetan. We now are on to a review thing of -now, see, we're talking about before the time track in this instance?

"Yes, I used that example, that's fine."

Now we're talking about - when you're in Review - you are always looking at: "Are we making this thetan able or has he got a disability, that's affecting his case?" This is a totally different view in order to locate the thing. You know? From the viewpoint of: "Are we achieving the ability for the guy or not." And, "What - if not -what ability does he need to have to get back to the abilities of a thetan to postulate and perceive." And the "Rights of a Thetan" - this is the other thing, we had to brief some of the guys on here - the "Rights of a Thetan" to LEAVE A GAME, if he wants to, or the RIGHT TO HIS OWN SANITY.

 

***  END OF SIDE 3,  TECH BRIEFING #4 ***

 

OK, this is side 4, now we have the question and answer period about the SUPERNOTs BRIEFING, 22 August 1985. It's TECH BRIEFING #4, CONFIDENTIALFOR SUPER NOTs ONLY. Question and answer period.

We're just talking about now the review action and we had this special thing of Out-Int, stuck flows on BTs, all right? And I'm saying also now, this is when you have to wear the "Review C/S" hat. This is just straight C/Sing so far. (All before on this tape).

Now, as a sort of "Review guy" you sort of look at the thing as: If the thetan was totally able, he wouldn't be in the situation he was. So, we're looking at the abilities, that the thetan could normally have to be an OT, right? Or be a "Static", OK? This comes under the prepcheck buttons, the postulate and perceive Axioms - you know, where he has the ability to postulate and perceive, and the ability to AS-IS. That covers a lot of that. And all these buttons, that you put on lists, on rudiments, and things, which can be out: False and Inval, Eval, Decide, Altered, and all the different things a thetan  can do with things. All right?

So Out-Int is one of these, where he can't flow this way or that way - or that way. He's stuck in at least one way. He can't come in. Can't come out - stuck, stuck, stuck. So, it basically comes under the earlier Axioms of Dianetics, where you have a thetan, who is "bringing order to MEST". The Dianetics Axioms. It's more like: Theta brings order to MEST. And you now have a guy confused with his identity in relation to or his abilities in relation to MEST. That is basically what it is. ALL of these disabilities. The thetan is disabled because he's become - well, he's become Entheta or Enmest, see? Because as I said, a pure thetan could go through a wall. It's no problem.

"He's stuck. He's stuck, you know?"

Yeah. But if he's stuck in with two other thetans, THAT"S THE LIE. So now he's THREE - but he THINKS, he is ONE. If you get them each SINGLE, they should ALL go through the wall. Now one guy MAY NOT go through the wall, and you have done everything else on him, and so he is the guy on the stuck flow, see?

So, you will get, in the case at some point, you'll get a whole bunch of guys, that now have - AFTER all this other stuff has been blown - they may even have been sitting there, listening, the whole time...

"Of course they have! Of course they have!"

Yeah, they monitored, what's going on and now they find out: "Yeah, well, me too -but I, I can't go...". You know, they really say it (telepathically) just like that, right? If the guy has been hanging on to these plugs, all the other guys are sort of "listening" too. They blow charge as the first guy gets handled, the top of the Org Board. He's been holding at the top, so whatever he's been saying or doing, is affecting them ALL. That's why, when we've pulled him out and blow him, the whole thing will start to come apart. And now we are getting to the point, where maybe some don't go, the guys with the stuck flows.

"And they are partially hiding, partially hiding, stuck flows on different flows, see?"

Mmm, you will find, that these guys are the guys who are carrying over a stuck flow from THEIR OWN UNIVERSE - they COULD DO IT from there, you see? I think, they are mistaking their own universe with this one and are carrying an old game, or an old stuck flow or an old postulate with them to another one (universe). You'll find games conditions going on between two or more of those guys, right? If you single them down - once you've singled them - and he still can't  go or get free, or can't get out or move or whatever, then you must find the flow that's stuck, like it says in the thing on the assessment on the flows. Do you have that?

But there WILL be a story of it, when you do the recall. See, you have to get that recall, so the guy can be totally free of it. And he could be ANYBODY or ANYTHING, because a thetan can hang himself up in ANY WAY AT ALL.

Now, I would say the reason, you're getting a bunch of these, is because they've been monitoring the other stuff going on during the case and they sort of "cleaned themselves up" on "solo". When you get to them, the only thing they have left is within: They couldn't leave because, they have stuck flows. And that is something you weren't handling on the other guys, so they didn't get it. And then you have to assess the flows, get the recall - bamm - they find out, what it is and blow the confusion, they had on other universes or other things that they misidentified.

"They have no...I mean they are not involved or have no attention, there's nothing. Just nothing. Just stuck!"

Realize, when you get there, you are dealing - once you've singled the guy up - you are already dealing at this point of the track, where the beginning of the track is -Incident I - so now you're dealing with guys behind that point, who have a disability. So you're dealing with pure Theta at this point and you are only working on the basis of the things "Senior to the Bank." So, Incident I isn't real to them. Incident II isn't real to them. It's senior buttons you need.

So, what is it LRH says are senior to the Bank? ARC, KRC, the Grades-charge, and occasionally, problems, stuck flow problems. O/W - his own consideration of his own overts. Not as a "body", but HIS as a thetan. His own idea of an overt, his own Ethics for instance - ARC - of course, because we mentioned that, - AND he can easily create himself a little Service Fac - if he wants to - by playing a game with somebody.

In fact we found out, that  when you get to the end of this that "purposes" always have to do with GAMES. And some of these guys are stuck are stuck on the "Theory of Games". They don't understand the THEORY OF A GAME.

So, now you get him really up there, to where the abilities are blocked by non-understanding of games - you know - freedoms, and barriers and opponents. I mean, just put that up to them, you know: "Game?" "Are you stuck in a game? Freedom, barriers and opponents?"

"Oh, yeah! I got a barrier here, I made because I got opponents! Where's that opponent? Ooooh, GONE!! He was there!" You know? They did it one time long ago, but it's not there anymore. "Ohh, no more opponents. I guess, I can be free. "You see, what I mean? The theory. They knew, that long ago, they were doing something, that they had a games conditions with and they didn't understand the game and now it's gone. See?

So, these are the applicable things on the later part of the case here or when you find these guys when that won't go after Incident I. You find this Earlier Universe, but connected with that  is "purposes", "games", "stuck flow", "attributes of the thetan", "abilities", "postulates". "Did you postulate something?" rÿ:'11ú

You can't...you don't even get a reaction to: "Earlier?" They don't look at it as being "Earlier". They sort of still have their attention on it in PT.

"They don't understand that at all. (Earlier)"

Not after you...when they don't have pictures anymore, you don't have an "earlier" concept. To them it's just an "Is-ness". It's an IS-NESS.

"Almost too simple to sort of see that, because it's so high up."

Right! And so it's easy. Because now you're dealing with...

"I don't think it's easy..."

Well, you're dealing with the attributes of a thetan, and you're dealing with prep-check-type-buttons, you're dealing with flows, and you're dealing with abilities and games. So, you can almost be - you know - if it doesn't handle with Int, you can check, whether the guy's stuck in a game. Find out: Is he stuck in a game? "What is the game?" "Who are you playing it with?" Or "Did you have one? Did you win? Did you loose?" Whatever gets the charge off, you know, you dig at it, if "failed purpose" doesn't get it off. Because he could have a failed purpose in a earlier game. And then, when you get his failed purpose in THIS UNIVERSE, you then get him back to earlier universe and it's not his only failed purpose. Because he failed in that one too - he lost a game.

So, now you have to run "games" on the guy. To get him to understand games: "OK" -you know - "That's it!" "The game is over." And then you can get him to basic LRH" Rights of a Thetan", which gives the "ability to leave a game". "the right to leave a game." "The right to your own sanity." That's what we're trying to make here.

"Yeah, I see..." He gets a cog. Sometimes you have to ORIENT him. Sometimes you have to R-Factor him. Sometimes you have to give him some Tech data, so they can understand what's wrong with them - you know? Give them data what happened. Hat them. Get them aware of games. You have to get them aware of failed purposes. You have to get them aware of "this is the MEST universe", and their freedoms or the right of a thetan - as LRH says. That's what we're doing. And...or at least 2% of the time or 5% of the time, you have to orient the guy in PT. Or we have laid out the choices and let him choose, what he wants to do. Give him "power of choice", orient uX:'22ú

him to PT, so he can decide, what he can do. Or you have to lay out some possibilities, he could do: "What are you interested in doing?"

He says: "Oh, this and that..."

"OK, (give him the choice), in this game right now, you could do this and that... or you could just leave it, if you want. It's up to you." And you can also hat him on some of the Axioms. You say: "what you are, is a free being, and you're a thetan -we call it "thetan" - and you have an ability to postulate and perceive. Do you understand?" You see?

So basically what you're doing is "hatting a thetan", because we're ALL having to do that. They didn't have this Tech. The reason, they all got into this bloody NOTs business, is because they didn't have the knowledge in the beginning. They had the abilities, but you have to have the KNOWLEDGE. Now we're restoring him to the ability state, but we've got to give him the knowledge this time - if they don't get it from having listened to or run through the processes. OK?

So, in that particular case, does that answer your question? You have to go for restoring the Theta abilities, the games, Axioms and so on. The "Rights of a Thetan". So, get them assessed...

"Yes, I'm sure you're right. It helped a lot."

Assess, assess them on that and find out, what the thing is. Ask for the by passed charge. Get it. Get the story...OK? Other questions? That also fits with the tone scale, bring them upscale from MEST through the body area through activity, games and so on. Finally get them up to 40.0, serenity. You know? OK! Any other questions?

So, it's like we should have a lot of successful PreOTs and Auditors around here, because I was interested - just in closing - I was interested in making sure people here didn't run into the stuff, that I have seen, and I'm sure, that others are running into. From the folders I've seen on people C/Sed from outside - first some DCSIs, and on OT-Levels, and then on NOTs itself. And also to show, that in certain parts of the NOTs Tech, there were areas, that were not made - in my opinion -IMPORTANT ENOUGH in the data. Which probably, when it was written, wouldn't have been recognized as to it's importance. But then later, it became more important -as...has told me. Some of the stuff has now appeared on the Solo-NOTs. You have to do all this auditing. You have to assess a list to get this, etc. And the "stacking up" of the case, and this kind of thing ARE mentioned, but only "in passing", almost. You know: "Don't worry, if this thing don't run like this, as it may not be stacked up this way." It should say: "DO NOT WORRY, BECAUSE ² THIS IS THE WAY, IT WILL COME UP. THE WAY THAT IT IS STACKED UP!"³  See? That should be a BIG DATUM! It really should, because we have not experienced the...what it says in there: "Don't worry, if in the first few sessions, you have BPC, because the stuff, as it's kept on going, will lessen from session to session." WE DIDN'T EXPERIENCETHAT. Why? BECAUSE WE WEREN'T BUILDING UP BPC. We were removing a whole "plug" (org board), and when that was gone, it was a whole new ball game. OK?

"It's still a worry for me, because I've come across that in (OT) III. Stacks! We take one stack away and the other side collapses. And you have to handle the other side of it."

Right ! Now, somebody may ask: "Why are they stacked up this way?" And I've been looking at that myself. I know they are, but I don't know exactly WHY. But I would say, it is because in essence, YOU ARE THE C/O OF THE WHOLE CASE. And whatever your attention is on, THAT will respond to THAT, see? You can look at it as being sort of "planetary C/O" of the whole Orgs of the Planet, you know, what I mean? So, if you're going: "peacock" - "Yeah, that's a peacock I guess, white peacock (on the table)." All right - if you're going "peacocks", then you're liable to get a whole bunch of things on the stack, that have to do with "peacocks", and birds, and other things having to do with that, right away.

If it's...say you're troubled with sore toes or sore feet or some thing.  You're liable to get...your attention is drawn immediately to all the Clusters and BTs around the toes or the feet or guys holding those from somewhere else, you know?

But I would say that... if you realize, that they obey you: "I'm really the C/O of the whole business!" We really get laughing sometimes on these guys, because you have to treat it like...you have to be RESPONSIBLE for this stuff on your stacks, and it's like sometimes these guys are great jokers. I mean, they just...they wake up and they say something really funny. You know, it's like the prizefighter coming awake, after he's been knocked out, and he says: "Where is he???" I mean, they start coming out of this incident, and right away they think, they're still in it. OR at the last moment they were still awake. And they're still carrying on with that action. It's very funny.

So, the whole thing is: You have to responsibility and treat it that way. It's an interesting area and if it's going away from interest, then realize, you may have a wrong assessment on your OWN INTEREST LINE. That's why the stack is there, I think, because it's your interest as the C/O of the whole case. So, your interest will be the monitoring factor here.

And I wanted to put that right at the beginning of any of our SUPER NOTs auditing for the people that haven't started yet, so that they don't get into this BPC phenomena. So they do take the things in the right way and handle it as it comes, allright?

"I do have another consideration on that: Why is attention drawn to some areas or specific points? I think because in NOTs - no, wait a moment please - I think because in NOTs we deal with thetans and some how - by one way or another - they become more and more awake and get bigger or whatever and PULL the attention. Because in former times, I very often was mystified, because I - after completing OT III - I did a lot of III again. Why that? I didn't think, I brushed it off, the III, I was...I did it through. But in the meantime, I think some of the NOTs cases came awake, so I could more or less handle them with III. And I think that's the same here: What pulls the attention, is more awake than the rest, and then that is the first thing, you could handle."

The first thing is the thing, that you have your attention on and has the most reads. There's TA there, and you got more TA there and more reads there...

"And that must be the most awake, I think."

Yeah, that's true, it is the most REAL...

"The most active, I would say."

Hm,..."most active"...But I just thought of another thing, you said that...which is: Remember in III or let's say, remember in II, you're knocking off the charge to expose the III case. Remember in III, you're getting rid of the thetans, who are most alive, so this can expose the NOTs case. And remember, when you are running NOTs - as you get a way through that - you now expose the NEXT CASE to handle for the thetan, right? And if we assume, that SUPER NOTs is going to free up pretty much of his OWN UNIVERSE, like clearing him on all dynamics, out of all this stuff HE'S connected to in it - then it might be, that another universe of - say, the |c:'55ú

3rd universe (MEST) - or the 2nd (the universe of others) - may come up, or any connections to them.

But basically, you have to look at that stuff SHINING THROUGH the NOTs case. In other words, the effects FROM the environment. Why do you think, they tell you: "Don't watch television too much, if you're on NOTs", you see? I found a whole bunch of guys sitting around the nerve channels, that were the ones, that were interested in the television flows coming through. Because they had pictures similar to pictures like that on the TV. And they were sort of like urging me to watch it. Just like you feel things in your arm or you feel your heart beat. You CAN feel these guys, they're not totally dead, not totally inert. They have a job. And if the job is to do THIS, they want to have some ack for that or want to have some reward or some flow coming through there. If they're being a monitor, they want to have something to monitor. If they're being a listening device - a mocked up "listening device", like an earphone or something, it could be - or a space ship, then they want some space movies there! You see what I mean?

So, they actually try to INFLUENCE you, pull it in from the environment, from the other universes. Either talking with others or seeing it - like the movies on television.

This is why I'm saying: "Every time you do this in session, pull this whole thing out, you feel a total change of valence of the body, of the things - like your impressions, you're getting through the body. You WILL feel "different", as you feel a DIFFERENT RESPONSE. Different ways to perceive or sense things, or now there's things, you weren't aware of before, or THOSE are gone and now there's a different "balance" in the case. It's very interesting and you can actually determine that as a " case change" all the time. OK?

So, let's look at it as possibly, it's exposing the influence of the next level of the case to handle. Because that's all, the thetan has been doing since Clear. OT I, then on to OT II and OT III, you are cleaning up THIS, so you can get to THIS. You are cleaning up THAT, so you can get to THAT.

"Like the whole bridge, the lower levels?"

Yes. That's similar...

"This data itself is almost like...throwing things loose, that want to be acknowledged. Waiting to say, "I'm here..." "

So, not only must you be a SUPER NOTs AUDITOR, but you must also be a SUPERNOTs C/S. A C/S for all these "cases" you're handling, because you are being an auditor and C/S at the same time. And that way we will  make your run through the SUPER NOTs level very smooth and very interesting.

So, if there are no other questions? No? I would just like to thank LRH for getting all the stable datums for us and putting it out. And what is beautiful about it is the final statement, "Exterior at will". The EP. That was beautiful. The SUPER NOTs data itself - first of all aligns to experience with ALL CASES but even more than that, it goes right back and shows again that all the Axioms - Scientology, Dianetics, ALL these basic truths of Scientology and so on - are totally, TOTALLY RIGHT. Spot on! You know, it just totally validates all the basic Axioms, as you come through it. One just might start off learning the Axioms and then sort of go up the bridge and think: "Well, hmm..." But then if you get off to yourself and think: "Goddamn, that was right spot on, it's RIGHT THERE, what he says. What's there is exactly as predicted." And ALL  Scientology is based on the Axioms, you know. And now it's like going through the "circle of knowledge" and coming back to the beginning, full circle. And saying: "Here's the Axioms!" "And now I REALLY understand why!" You know, it's like the data analysis. So, it's a fantastic assembly of data, that LRH did. And just by knowing a little bit more about the data of C/Sing, and what happens on  the OT levels, and what happens on the SUPER NOTs case and C/Sing from the viewpoint of these guys, then you can make it very smooth. You go through the level easily. OK?

"Fine. Thank You."

"Yeah, I thought on another subject - if you could say a little word about thebridge-over from auditing to SUPER Solo NOTs."

Yeah, that's a good question. Yes, I will mention that. I'm not sure what criteria, they use in the Church - but there's only two (criteria), that I can say right now, that I feel are necessary: One of them is that the guy, who is being audited on SUPERNOTs, can confidently handle the entire of this particular stack (which he's been handling) without hardly any help form the auditor. Which means by this time, he doesn't even need a meter. So, if he HAS a meter, he can CERTAINLY do it. AND he has enough free attention to not have to refer back to the auditor. He's got enough :'77ú

free attention units of his own, so he can keep track of who to handle.

In other words: He hadn't handled THAT guy, but he had to handle the holder, the one who is holding him. And maybe another guy is holding also. So, he handles that guy and this Cluster and so on and now he doesn't have to refer back to find out, who is the next guy, he has to handle. See, if he has enough FREE ATTENTION to handle all of that, then you KNOW, he also has enough free attention to run the admin and the meter at the same time.

And the other criteria - oh, there is one technical criteria: I wanted to - on audited SUPER NOTs - to handle all the missed stuff on earlier auditing and OT III. I think that should be done with an auditor, because it could involve Out-Int and lists and things like that. That should be done with the auditor.

But the other, ONLY OTHER CRITERIA besides that of "The guy being able to run it  by himself mostly through the session, maybe only one or two little "steers" by the auditor", is: THAT HE FEELS, THAT IT IS OK FOR HIM NOW TO RUN ITWITHOUT THE AUDITOR THERE, you see?

Because there are TWO criteria here: The guy IS going to be a solo auditor, but it is very good to have another terminal there to discharge the stuff to. You see, what I mean? And - even if he has the meter and the admin - CAN HE KEEP THE SAMELEVEL OF INTEREST? And...interest IS going on when both the guy and the auditor are working on it, you see? If he still wants that a little bit, it's like you have to bridge him off of that.

I mean, I noticed, that I don't have to talk anymore. I'm phasing out of the session -but I'm still there as a TERMINAL for Ulrich and he...I don't need to SAY anything. I just start the session, you know, indicate the first area, and then he's off -bum bum bum bum bum - you know: "This guy, and this guy, and this guy", you know? And eventually I just tell him: "Your TA is floating."

After a few sessions, I didn't have to say much. Now I'm just keeping all the admin. Except for one or two times, you know? And he's going: "Now, let's see, that guy blew. Anybody left around? I had that stuck one, but I forgot which one he's from." "OK", I say: "that guy will be from the Cluster here.", OK? And the needle read, when checked "Earlier Incident Is connected to him." (that's what he last ran on that Cluster.)

"OK, good!" - ptshh - so, he handles that. Anyway, he's looking around to find if any  were left, see, so it's maybe a little thing, but he will spot that sooner or later, if he has free attention. But the other point is: Is he ready to do it, so that he feels that: "Hey!" - you know - "I can do it myself, all the finding and so on like that. I'm ready." But it's good  to have another terminal to talk to about it and to discharge to. You know?

"Thanks. Connected to that, I do have another question, a technical question: Ron talks about the facts that...or the reason, if he is audited, that two cans give a deeper read on the meter than solo cans."

Ah, yes, yes. We never had small reads. That's funny! I saw that in there, you know, and then we studied it and all that stuff. And I don't know if M... can confirm this or M... if you had small reads on solo. But so what, it doesn't need to read much on the meter at all. Is that what you mean? So you can spot the BPC? When you get theright one, it reads like crazy - LFs, BDs.

"I think, the reason, you gave before, is more than this. That the person has enough free attention to operate himself. I think that is the main point. Plus to know the real technical thing, that will get the reads and the TA moving."

The telepathic comm is so strong with these guys - I mean - and here you have all these little datums and hints. I mean, you can almost see: "OK, the next thing is this..." Just Standard Tech. Because, when you can have a Pre OT sitting there and hegoes the whole of session without having to refer to the meter or to the notes and in YOUR session he doesn't have to confront the ADMIN either...

"And your ARC, and your communication to the stuff is of major importance. ARC!"

 

ARC! Very important on that. It is: You are their auditor and they respect you and whatever. You're always senior to them. Remember that. And the guys have to have a senior. And you have been their senior - that is, what you have to realize. When you took that body, you got to be a senior to the whole bunch of them - you know? And...so...you ARE the senior. So take responsibility for the Org - audit them. Free them.

 Ç:'99úAnyway, that's - if there's no other questions? Anyway, these guys, you can always send them out on missions, if you get some real big ones. We got some real big ones, who came out of this stuff, and so on, and they want to do missions. They say: "Hey, want can I do to help out?" You see?

"Which kind of mission?"

Well, you know, nudge the reporters, and things like that. You know, to look under the news and see, if there really is a world take-over scenario. Anyway, that's a lot of fun.

"Do they report back really?"

Well, they can do that, telepathically, if they want. But, you know, it's just to give them a game - if they want. They want a game and some of them do want to help -they feel really betrayed by these implanters. So. it's up to you - anything to help a "freeing operation" on that.

And...Oh, one other comment about "Black NOTs": They just like "bypass and try to restim" your plugs and stacks. I got session data of them having done this and then...and then I got a copy from Australia of a C/S - it looks like it was altered. From the Church. It was a C/S of Black NOTs. And it was altered, because it was made to help Thetans. It was like: "We can help other people, or help the SPs get better or run some SP's case off." - or "Help leaders make better decisions by handling some of their Engrams, that their NOTs BTs are stuck in." "And we can audit this on them by contacting them, and finding the BTs there, who is suppressive and handling."

And this was their C/S, you see? It isn't the REAL C/S. That was the altered C/S. The REAL C/S was "to take the squirrels and the out-ethics-guys and to put NOTs phenomena ON THEM, restimulate NOTs phenomena on people by trying to takeover control of their BTs and Clusters, and urging them to restimulate." Now, that's bypass. This was a Big Thetan, coming from over here, rather than the guy in the body doing it. The guy running that body, is the real C/O, you see?

But, after going through all this - I can tell you, IT DOESN'T WORK. It can't and doesn't work. Because of this "Organization" factor. All they can do, is get in there and interfere with these guys. And they can't tell then, whether they got a blow or not. Because they can...they can maybe make it "worse", and they can maybe make it "better". But there is no way, they are going to be able to actually do a POSITIVEALL-THE-TIME-JOB. Because first, they haven't got the AGREEMENT OF THEC/O to be in the session and handle it.

"It's other-determined."

Yes, it's other-determined! I found out, it's much more easy to handle SPs by getting in comm with THEM - the guy who is RUNNING THE THING, the C/O of the thing -and try to audit HIM. Or to give him some indications like: "How long have you worked for the implanters?" - or - "Fucked up in an Earlier Universe?" - you know? Or: "Did you ever look at the fact, that you may be monitored yourself?"

You know, those kind of things. THAT works. You can see some changes: Some, "What's - what's that? Was I an implanter?", you know? - Or..."Did your seniors find out about your non-conformities?" - "Oh! Maybe they have. Oh!"

"Missed Withholds..."

Yes, you CAN audit the guy, and you CAN get a direct telepathic link with the guy. But to REALLY HANDLE this "Black NOTs Guy", and not just sort of "try to handle his case", which is the "C/S" I saw. As I said, that's what  came out in the Free Zone. They thought the Church was doing "something" to help handle the SPs on the planet. It wasn't that at all, as we well know.  The "Black NOTs Guys" are putting attention on your "old case" from PC folders. Knowing you had an injured leg in the past, and then using this "Black NOTs" shit, and trying to PUSH SOMETHING INTO YOUR LEG NOW or RESTIMULATE SOMETHING IN IT, you know?

"I know!!"

Yeah, we ALL know. OK! So, any other questions?

Maybe in the next level...we'll have another handling for those guys. OK? Very good!

("Note by Capt. Bill: The best handling found for "Black NOTsers" is to treat them, when contacted in session, EXACTLY LIKE AN IMPLANTER, you might find in a plug, as "Black NOTs" IS IMPLANTING.)  So:

END OF TECH BRIEFING #4

This is CONFIDENTIAL SUPER NOTs BRIEFING

22 August 1985

Thank you very much!

 

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