4,1 (2)
Run into guy in tracing back a postulat "I'd like to drink a
beer".
Pre-OT: Yes! It's a guy. It's an Anti-Thetan, that's why the read is
not so big. (sf) It's this guy there in my left backwards.
Hello! x
Postulat? Pre-OT: I can perceive him like little glass-ball, not very
big, very shaped. It doesn't feel like a ball. He's kind of controlling the Anti-MEST
body. Like a shepherd of the Anti-MEST body.
Hello to the Anti-Thetan: Not responsive at all. It's- like shaking a
corpse! (Comment of Pre-OT.) FBD 4,6
Contact this guy 4,8
PrPr 4
Tell me a source
Tell me about it.
Tell me a no-source
Tell me about it.
Somatic (sf)
Somatic
Somatic 4,9
strange body sensations
Somatic
Somatic
Somatic
Somatic
no source
there are no sources
he & Pre-OT
just running automatically (somatic)
not Ore-OT
he can handle her like a puppet
she (pre-OT)
pre-OT can't originate
he - of somatics
(pre-OT: with every answer he's giving me somatics)
he can control her via the body and can give her any somatics she can
imagine.
the Anti-MEST body
this Anti-MEST body just reacts to his commands
he 5,0
he can do many things with the Anti-MEST body. He's always awake and can
look whether he should do something with the Anti-MEST body or not. He can take energy
away from the body and the body can't be controlled as well, the body just feels weak.
When he does this, she thinks she can't ride motor-cycles. He's proud
about that.
Anti-MEST body
He just controls it. The body itself can do nothing. but if he pulls the
strings, he can do marvellous things with that body.
(Pre-OT origination: It's incredible because I've been thinking exactly
that sentence for days: 'I can do marvellous things with that body!', and I was
wondering about that)
He is the source of doing those things and operating the Anti-MEST body.
There is no body else to do it. He does it.
He likes it. It's his job and he does a very good job and he nearly
never fails and gives her really nice somatics. 5,2
Mostly all is no-source.
He's doing the things
Somehow she's a source
somehow it's funny because she is talking to him, as she is a source of
comm to him, and he can't remember the last time somebody talked to him.
her body
Really so. He affects the Anti-MEST body and this one affects the
MEST-body and if she tries to handle the MEST-body that doesn't work because it's a
no-source
she is a source
probably we could do something together against bodies and then, we
could have nice game, (Pre-OT gets telepathically: he has the idea that he's helping her
in working against bodies!)
the bodies
they are totally dependent either from him or from her. He can't run the
MEST-body, but can stop it in its functions.
he is now more source, because now, is also a source of comm, not only
of givining somatics.
he's more source
everything that is not source
this guy on (other pre-OT) is no-source too
he
this guy at runs the Anti-MEST body of (same person) and he can
influence this guy at.... 5,3
all these Anti-MEST bodies. They are all controlled.
Yes! They are controlled by guys like him! Sometimes one guy like him is
controlling up to 10 bodies or more, via other Anti-MEST Thetans. Like it's set up.
he
he does his job. He's trained to do that and does it very-well and it's
all fine (OT: I'm terrible tired!)
she was kind of no-source as she never talked to him and noticed him.
Now it's nice to talk to her.
he likes his job and can do it very accurately and influences Anti-MEST
bodies. Sometime he gets order from another source, but only for hard cases! Normally he's
doing it by himself
a guy walking around in Anti-MEST and looking if everything is going
right and now, and then he's visited by this guy and maybe gets a special order and this
guy is a source too
nothing else more
the things he uses: the Anti-MEST parts
it's like he said
this guy is a source. He's not his source, but it's a source
there's a big source from which everything exists and who have gave him
his Job and created everything
everything is actually a no-source but this big source, who elected guys
out of the nosource to become sources, limited sources, but sources to do special jobs and
being the sources of special effects. All the things which can be affected by sources like
him that has been elected as a source. He's wondering why she is a source too.
he's wondering why she's a source and if she got elected too, because
she's at the other side and he thought sources are only on his side
he is
he got elected as such
everything that is not created is potentially a no-source. But it can
become a source by being created. or a real no-source!
the hip source creates and elects and depending on that one is source or
no-source. Rut in actual fact, there's only one source, because all sources come from the
big source and without the big source there couldn't be sources.
she is a source! He didn't recognize her as a source, but now she's
talking to him and now he's wondering as the big source only gave life to guys at that
side and now help asking her, whether we have a big source too?!
that was it
everything which is not a source is a no-source
he's thinking whether there are more sources than the ones he knows so
far, he didn't have the idea until now
he
he is! He is proud! He got elected and he is a source!
before he was elected he was a no-source
that wasn't so nice. He can't remember so much, but
he thinks it was not nice. He likes much better to be a source.
he is the source of her body being so tired 5,4
a special gift from him, as an acknowledgement for her body as he likes
talking to, her about that. But it's not his idea giving her that tiredness. Somebody told
him to do that as it would be nice acknowledgement, gift for her!
he's not interested in no-sources
what he said
he is a source and she and the guy giving him orders, the big source...
And now he's wondering whether the big source has got a source probably because he could
probably be a source of a source too... Probably! So there are more sources probably then
he knows
probably all that is no-source could be potentially all source. It could
be more fun. He likes that idea. Sometimes it's boring a bit, to do what he does, but he
won't complain it's ok.... 5,35
he's not a no-source and she is not a no-source too. And everything is
somehow a source too. For example the Anti-MEST body is the source for the somatics on the
MEST-body! 5,5
depending on the viewpoint, everything is a source! Rut him and her are
bipger sources than the bodies, Anti or not!
he could probably be a source of something else tool Not-only Anti-MEST
body! 5,4
this just came-into his mind as it is boring to do the same thing all
the time. He could probably ask the big source if he can do something else after all this
time influencing Anti-MEST bodies.
what he is not able to do now is potentially a no-source for him
this no-source part of him maybe could be recovered, so he can do more
than influencing Anti-MEST bodies.
he
he thinks he can do things and this is why she's talking to him, as now
he has new thought and it is really good and he likes it!!
all that is not done or there, not applied, not activated.
if it could be activated it could become source, but it's not
he is!
he comes to know that he is really than just influencing Anti-MEST
bodies, and he's potentially a source for more things! (sf)
(sf) everything he is not!
parts of him not used. Maybe the big source planned something with them.
he is a source
he is a source
things which are not sources
things that don't do things. He's no-source in certain aspects, and he's
like to turn these no-source parts into source actually!
he is! That he came to know so many things! He can see more clearly! He
feels bigger and better
she is the source for him feeling better
he doesn't know whether he could do that. So in that direction he's
no-source
he thinks that she is not created by the big source and he's like to
know who she is and what she's doing as he likes that better than influencing Anti-MEST
bodies!
he's a source!
doesn't know exactly what source he is, but he is, He doesn't know
whether being a source to operate the Anti-MEST body is really all. 5,4
it's not true that there is a big difference between a source and a
no-source, as it's depending on what source, so probably only the big source is the only
source.
if everything is created is not source. Only the big source is the
source of everything but there's something more about it he didn't remember yet.
the big source! For sure!
he created all! So he must be the only source basically. The rest is
only source potentially. But there's something funny it's like he had-forgotten something
he should remember, but that he can't remember.
he's a no-source
he's created. Therefore he's not a source. He was created so he became
what he is because of somebody else. So he's not the source of himself. so he's a
no-source.
the big source
he made all that is at that side
everything else is a no-source, except the big source.
if everything comes from the big source, everything else is no-source
and he wants to differenciate clearly!
she! Obviously, because she's not a big source but she's a source and
has not been created by the big source, so he's wondering...
he doesn't understand that, as she's obviously a source! Maybe she's a
big source too and he has the honour to talk to her.
he is a no-source as all the power he nets, comes from the big source.
Without that, he'd be nothing! So he's a no-source. 5,5
(sf) wondering how this works, because if the big source gave him
energy, that would have sometimes gone, but this is not so, there must be something in him
independent from the big source. He has no explanation for that, but there is something
He is a bit of a source. Independent from the big source! Some energy
from himself! So there's something like a bit of source inside himself! Maybe the big
source created him with that quality of never ending energy.
thinking about and he doesn't get it why the big source would create him
with an immortal energy? He could then escape after finding it out! There's something more
to know! Probably everything else has also this that he has, so probably there are no
no-sources, but he's not sure!
he can't figure out, but there is something funny.
He doesn't want to question the big source, but maybe there's something wrong!
he is the source of his thought!
he never thought about that before. He was always doing what he was
told. And this is coming from him, so there must be a bit of source of him.
he is half source! Half no-source!
he can't tell much about that! He is kind of both and now has to figure
out the truth. 5,5
he is the source of this idea and he's probably not created! It would he
nice (sf) 5,5
if he were not created, hold be a source.
as long as he looks at himself as created, he's a kind of no-source.
he doesn't understand that! (sf) He can't explain what is all tout!
There's a barrier that he hits when he thinks about that! He's just a created
"Anti-MEST body controller". It was a silly idea to think that he probably was
not created and now he feels bad and that's because she talked to him... (OT: something
happened! He feels again as at the beginning!)
nothing
there are no sources, but the big source.
everything but the big source
everything but the big source
the big source 5,6
nothing else
the rest
the rest, because it got created by the big source.
the source of all is the big source.
the big source thought all and created all
he's a no-source as he's created by the big source as all the rest
he would not be without the big source
she is a kind of a source FBD 5,5
talking to him
him absolutely
he can only do what the big source is telling him to
he is a very little source
he can at least influence the Anti-MEST body
he is as well a no-source
he can't do things, except the orders of the big source
big source
everything is coming from the big source
the rest
the big source is all
she is
somehow he fears to speak to her without petting orders
he! He couldn't talk to her
he had to wait till she talked to him. He h - as no order to talk to
her, but doesn't have the order to not talk to her. So it's a new situation for him! F F
F she is a source
he feels more alive! FBD 5,5
he was and now has an idea that he maybe could be or at least become a
source
he feels a bit better! Like having come out of "sleep".
there is something pressing him. He has the idea he shouldn't talk to
her
something presses him not to talk to her
that's a source; it's not him!
that's coming from somewhere else! It's not from the big source and it's
not her, but it's there!!
he doesn't know any more sources.
he really thinks there are not many more sources than these three
sources: big source, her and the source pressing him.
he as he is controlled.
the guy pressing him is the guy always looking around.
this guy is a source as he presses him and he presses her Anti-MEST body
and her body will soon fall from the chair if she doesn't pay attention!
What about? 5,55
he's
he's created
the big source only
he created all
the rest
all rest is created by the big source
the big source. Only source!
the big source
the rest
the rest (OT: Everytime this guy gets to an awareness level of thinking
about himself as a source something happens and he feels exactly as at the beginning when
I contacted him first!) 5,45
Auditor: Let's continue.
the big source
there's no source but the big source
everything
the rest depends on the big source
she is!
somehow talking to him and not automatically or mechanically and she's
source, but on the other side.
she is a no-source because she's on the other side
and that doesn't count.
only the things on his side are real. The rest is not real. Only the
things on his side are counting.
big source
what he said
he is no-source
he's created by the big source
he's not a source. Only the big source!
everything is created by the big source 5,5
everything else
that's logical (OT: F LFBD 5,45 I'm not so heavily dope-off as before
but I have the feeling LFBD 5,2 that it is like a machine! I have no problem on getting
answers, but he is repeating always the same! I don't have the idea that this will handle
him, as it doesn't break through ... It's not hard to audit him, except the somatics and
this very heavy tiredness.. FBD 5,15 And it doesn't cost much effort the auditing itself,
but it's like a record with the same answers FBD FBD 5,1 In the middle, I was so tired.. I
thought of laying in my bed, nothing exiting happens 5,1 sleeping for loo years... 5,2
(Break - 5,2 (2))
(Re-Start - 4,0 (2))
(OT origination: The body starts to feel sick!)
Tell me an existing condition
Tell me how you have handled it
being created 4,2
does what is created for
gives the feeling like sleeping
he works on an automatic basis
being with others in the hand of god
he does what he does for his creator
being nothing
he didn't handle it. How could he handle it if he wasn't
Pre-Being
waited to be created to come to life
impression of movement
got moved
something like a light getting brighter and brighter
he was just overwhelmed
being very very very small and standing in front of a very very large
being
he just stood there overwhelmed and couldn't do
anything
being newly born. He got told that he wasn't and that he now is and that
it is wonderful that he is now as before he wasn't and he should be very thankful as it's
a very big honour to be created by the big source and having a duty to do for the big
source. This something very special.
He was very happy and thankful of being elected to be created
total blackness
he was scared. He didn't know what happened and what to do
the condition of knowing not to be
he wasn't
held tried with big effort to go through something
he gave up
it is as if he as a Thetan was cut in pieces. Something electronical
very very fast and hard. From different points these flows came to him. 4,6
in total panic
he broke down
he did nothing
he was totally smashed down and something like a big hand took him up
very softly and somebody told him he had had a terrible accident and that he now should
sleep for a while and that somebody would care for him and that he shouldn't be afraid and
everything would be fine... and he just surrendered to this.
he was happy that somebody cared for him as he really felt very badly
and very smashed down
he was just walking along and then running into these "funny
waves" he was talking before a total shock, turning everything around. Before, he
was just a Thetan walking around. These waves came and everything imploded like everything
was turned upside-down, anchorpoint inside of the Thetan things like that.
he was totally shocked. He didn't understand it at all
there was something that he was curious about what it was and he wanted
to know what it was and when he came closer that happened
he didn't handle it. he was handled
he was like a star with many other stars having a duty.
he did his duty
total emptyness
there was nothing to handle
unconsciousness
he doesn't know he was unconscious
being dead
he was just dead and waited for his resurrection
total blackness
he couldn't handle. There was not only total blackness, but huge
pressure
he was just walking and somebody told him to go somewhere to look at
something funny that he should go and lock and he did and he got into these waves
he was very curious and went there and something happened. He can't
bridge from what was then and now and there was something in-between he wants to know
he has the feeling he's not what he should be. Something happened with
him. but hp doesn't know what
he hasn't handled it yet, but this is the first time he's wondering
about this. It seems to be funny.
he thinks he was a Thetan (free) and he is wondering what he is now. He
doesn't feel like a free Thetan. He somehow feels in prison
he's trying to pet out of that, but-somehow it doesn't work
he can't remember. There's something but he can't remember.
held like to handle/remember it
he's wondering what he is doing and who she is and what is happening.
Feels suddenly waking up from a very long dream and didn't fully get what has happened yet
he tries to handle it. He'll find out he hopes
he is there
he doesn't know what he should do now 4,9
there is something with the big source he remembers.
he thinks this big source has created him. He's wondering. He doesn't
feel so good about that idea
he had to do with that source. but that source was not what it pretended
to be
he's trying to find out right now
he is!
he is there! 5,0
he is there!
he doesn't know exactly where he is
something is wrong with him
he doesn't know how to handle it. He just feels funny!
there are no existing conditions
there's nothing to be handled without an existing condition
being nothing
he waited as he was told that after being nothing held be something very
nice. It's funny that he can remember when he was nothing. Much unconsciousness and
blackness, more nothings with him in this blackness!
Then somebody laying the "hand on his shoulder" and
tells him: You have no time! You have no space, no matter, no energy. You are not a
Thetan. You are not nothing. And then something like: Come to me, so I give you something
so you are not nothing. And then he gave him something: He was told
that he is what he is only because the big source allowed him to be what he is. Otherwise
held be nothing. And then he says: You are, but you are not. You are because of me and you
Ire not because of me. And then he got hypnotized: during this it must have become this
automatism. He got orders. The big source asked him whether he agrees he is a creation of
the big source and that if he can see that held not be without the big source. And he
agreed to that, as before he was nothing and now he was something as otherwise held
benothing again! So it was obvious it was like that! And then the big source told him that
hp, only take orders from the big source and that held only do that what the big source is
telling him and then he got his post.
he was in the condition of being a controller of a body
he controlled it
he's automatically working, like stimulus-response basis
he did it on this basis as he shouldn't think as the big source thinks
and he's acting
that's what he did
upon the stimulus: kind of working on certain wavelenghts. He pets a
certain wavelenght on which he is programmed and then he does something.
he's still sitting there, but it seems a bit funny for him to do it, as
now he's thinking
5,15 he's just sitting there, wondering somehow
being free, but not free
he can't move. He can't recognize the things he's perceiving and it's
all very funny for him
can't move
he's stuck
he knows why he can't move: there's no space for him. That one doesn't
fit for him any longer
trying to move and do something but can't
maybe he is created because he can't move
he can't handle it
depending on the big source
he doesn't want it
being imprisoned
held like to get free but can't
he's hold 5,1
by a postulate (sf)
FBD 5,0 wondering about the postulate
trying to find out from whom this postulate is coming! Yes!
being held by a postulate
he thinks this is a co-created postulate of the big source and himself
he was in the condition where he agreed to make a postulate with the big
source as a "contract" they both made!
they used something to fix the postulate. Like if
they had used a Thetan for the Postulat or something like that
making this postulate
this postulate is made as a Thetan, or on a Thetan. It could be that was
made via the CVP Or on the CVP!
being held by this co-postulate
this co-postulate is on another Anti-MEST Thetan.
There's a connection between the big source, this Anti-Thetan we are auditing and the
co-postulate which is in another person, in Anti-MEST. But he nevertheless is held by the
postulate 5,2
- being held by a postulate
- held like to know the postulate, but he doesn't remember it
- he doesn't know what to do
- he doesn't know how to handle it
- he doesn't know an answer to that!
(OT: I'm losing contact with him)
- no answer
- being lost
- he doesn't want to be lost
- not being there
- not at all
- being attacked
- tries to protect himself
- he's attacked right now
(Tone 40: get out of the session!)
- now it's gone
- he's actually free
- would like to go free
- he's held 5,1
- tries to break free from that
- being threatened badly
- could do nothing
- being held back to remember
- can't handle it
- being sick
- needing help
- being very sick
- needing very much help
- dead
- he didn't handle it.
- dead FBD 4,9
- he couldn't handle it. He was dead
- being told he was deed
- he believed it 5,0
- being smashed and told to be dead, but this won't last
- waited for the end of being dead
- totally starving
- starved
- being helped
- was thankful to net help
- was thankful of living again
- agreed to do everything he was told to
- told to be an automatism
- he was one
- he responded only on special orders or special things
- he responded only on that
- he was dead and used all the time in actual fact, even if he thought of being alive
- he was dead, but alive! Was turned around. Anti. Was dead but alive. He was made an
Anti-Thetan.
-
- he didn't handle it. We did handle it. But now it's handled 5,1
- he is there, he is he
- what he could do now?
- he's asking her whether he's not in a good condition 5,15
- he's wondering what will happen now
- breaking down
- he did so
- being nothing
- he was so
- being something
- trying to figure out what he was
- dead
- he didn't handle it
- he's just mocking it up! It's all not true!
- it doesn't need to be handled. It's just a mock-up.
- it can't be handled
- it can't be
- he's in the condition of can't be handled
- he can't be handled
- 1, he is in that condition
- he didn't handle it
- being stuck
- not handled
- stuck and can't be handled
- didn't
- he is in the condition of not-to-be and to be-nothing-but-something and that can only be
handled by the big source, as he is a creation of the big source
- can't be handled
- it can't be handled,
- he didn't
- he is an Anti-Thetan
- he didn't
- that's his condition: fixed forever and can't be handled
- he can't do anything
- he is created and be what he is
- he does what the creator wants him to do
- being the creation of the big source
- he doesn't think there is anything to handle on it
- being part of the creator
- he is part of the creator
- not being part of the creator
- it was terrible
- he's confused
- held like to handle the confusion. but he has no stable data
- being in confusion
- he didn't
- all isn't true. He's just dreaming. 5,2
- he doesn't have to handle as it is a dream
- he doesn't know who/what he is
- tries to find out
- big source told him who he is: a creation of the big source and now will have a nice
life doing his job. He must be happy to do that
- he was what he should be
- he is not. Just a mock-up. Condition of being mocked-up
- he cares not be unmocked 5,25
- not really being
- tries to be as good as he can
- being the creation of the big source
- didn't
- being out of everything
- nothing to handle
- being nothing
- he was nothing
- just being because of the big source
- he was the creation of the big source
- he's wondering what she wants from him 5,3
- held like to continue doing his job and not being disturbed by her
- being heavily disturbed by her
- he can only say what the big source is telling him to say
(Tone 40: Out of session!)
- being alone
- everybody does what he wants with him
- he's a postulate
- he does what he should do
- being totally out of all
- not at all
- sad
- can't handle it
- hates the idea of being created
- tries to find out truth
- he's not sure what he is
- held like to find out. There's something he should look at, but he's held back. Every
time he tries to look at, he's thrown back away by a mechanism as a shield around. It's
not a PT thing. Has the idea that the big source betrayed him and gave him false ideas and
he would have to look at something.
- feels better now, not so influenced 5,35
- will try to look at this thing
- something wrong with that light. He never was dead. He was just told that he was dead
then he was betrayed. But this is a lie
- he went effect on it
- he was free before that 5,3
- he handled his freedom as any other Thetan and he was trapped into something else, other
universe
- got smashed down and so on ... sleeping ... life and job... working all the time. He
just wanted to look et that funny thing and all this happened. The funny thing is a
movement but it's not a movement. There, but not there. Hard to perceive, but you can
perceive it. Different from all, what exists. Really very interesting.
- Now it's almost handled. He tried to find what that was and all that happened and then
he was in a kind of another universe which was totally different from what he knew,
totally upside-down from what he knew. He was curious/silly enough to go into that trap.
- he is not very big
- he didn't
- feels quite safe at the moment
- held like always to feel like this
- working for the big source
- he couldn't do other than he was told to do
- he is there and he is he
- nothing to handle 5,35
- nothing else
- no more
- very small
- couldn't handle it
- being what he is
- he was and is what he is
- he doesn't know
- he can't
- he can't and he doesn't know
- he doesn't handle it
- small and not able to get out of it
- held to handle it but can't
- he failed
- he tried to do his beet but failed
- failor 5,4
- he can't
- there's no other existing condition
- he can't
- no answer - somatics -
- more somatics
- sensations
- somatics and sensations
Auditor: Anything you want to say before the break? It really feels that he is
stuck. And that there is something he has not really looked at, and it seems to be so well
covered up that he can't see what it is. There is something he didn't hit yet. He can't
contact that thing. 5,4 I'd have to handle it but I am a bit exhausted. He has the feeling
he fails because he couldn't contact and I have the feeling I failed, as I have the
feeling that I can't handle this And I feel there are really attacks about this guy and I
have really to keep the space in order to audit him. Well, I don't know (sf) It's a kind
of feeling of failure failed purpose he's giving answers and answers but at the moment he
contact the solution, he gets thrown away. Wording? he can't be handled! - Needless
to try, you will fail anyway! - This is too high a gradient for you...! - Who do you think
you are that you think you can solve this?! - Anti-MEST can't be handled with the laws of
MEST! - This is a never-ending cycle Even if I do my best, I fail! My best is not good
enough! - I'm just stopping handling all this things.
Feeling? 5,4 (laughs) LFBD 5,2 UaaaaM You don't make it! I
feel sick body-wise and unable to stand all that. - That I won't make it! - I'm too small
to make it. - I failed like I always do FBD 5,15 (laughs) I don't find it and I'm not
interested to find it. - I'd prefer not to go on, but having a normal life just give up. -
I don't feel strong enough FBD 5,15 To be in the wrong film, the wrong role - Total
failure - Failed and felt ashamed! - It's really just too much. - 5,3 - "I AM THE
PERFECT FAILURE" FBD 5,2
I hate to have that feeling! (laughs/VGIs'.)
(EOS - 4,9
C/S from auditor: The PrPr 6 went fine until the guy contacted there was a
postulate Thetan holding him inside; from that point nothing happened, but can't handle
answers and guy getting thrown away by postulate holding him! At the end of the session,
before ending, I asked the Pre-OT if anything and she told the feeling she was having and
on the wording she laughed and there was a huge LFBD. - ok - The feeling is of failure as
it was supposed to be tom the guy, who failed before surrendering to the "Big
Source".
Suggested C/S:
Co-Postulate: Him - Big Source
So, I would handle the Postulate Thetan by normal Postulat Procedure,
from the wording we already have!
I'd go back to PrPr 6, PrPr 4, PrPr 5 on the guy!
P.D. 22.6.88
If this one goes as the one I've handled, then even the PrPrs wouldn't be necessary, as
the whole things gets handled with the normal process for Postulate Thetans.
Only at the Blow/Can't Blow-steps, it's necessary to do first the co-postulates (as a
mule: Xenu - guy) and then, the guy in the who, plus all other B/CB Steps: especially
Rights, Orientation, New Game and sending the guy to debrief to M-Ship and Central, which
he does very happy! - Auditor -
Don't ask the Pre-OT anything at the end of session when you are still
running PrPr 6 on another as she will only give feelings & that's from the uncomplete
case cycle of PrPr 6.
The PrPr 6 is going fine. The Thetan had "EPs" of Pr 4
& 5 during the session and is now into the somatics & introversion preceeding the
REVIV. Do not go off and do anything else, as the PrPr 6 must be brought to EP. Its
alright to do shorter sessions if Pre-OT is tired. but the job is to reach the EP of PrPr
6 - and the indicators are that it is close. Good muzzled TRs and intention with the
commands will bring it about sooner.
Continue PrPr 6 to EP. (These will be a Reviv and BD of TA to between
2.0 & 3.0 and F/N shortly thereafter. Keep running the process until-the F/N occurs
AFTER the Reviv.
Then check his PrPr 4 & 5. He should F/N on the commands as they are
given him. (Don't try to "rehab" the EPs. In Power 4, 5, 6 you just call
the commands to see it they F/N. If not, he may need a few more commands and then he will
EP. (The reason is that after a REVIV a Thetan is NEWLY in P.T. and you don't try to "rehab"
on a "recall" basis as that puts his attention back out of PT and
destroys the EP, or gets him into a new case cycle.)
BR
Sn C/S
(Restart - 22.06.88 - 4,35)
R-Factor about going on with PrPr 6
Contact guy 4,5 (Tics - the same as yesterday!)
- being there
- makes nothing else then that
- being split apart somehow
- tries to find himself together again1. a part of him being taken away somehow
- he didn't understand that
- he was told that this would be necessary as a kind of the big source always knows how he
is doing and if he's doing badly the big source can help him
- he was a bit astonished about that but big source told him it would be ok
- this part of him is being used and combined with something else. He doesn't like so much
but it happened.
- he couldn't do anything. He was totally dependent.
- it feels he was kind of suddenly very held or very stuck with the combination of this
some thing else
- he couldn't do anything
- being thrown away somewhere
- he feared it, but couldn't stop anything
- suddenly he was totally stopped after being thrown and got fixed in a certain location,
where he couldn't move at all and certain things happened to him, musing him much pain.
Like electrical beams thrown to him. He was told that if he didn't do his job, this would
happen to him. But then he was told to forget that.
- he did what he was told to
- there's something hidden that he couldn't find it, as then, if he found that, the whole
thing would dissolve
- he was always wondering about that
- part of him is used and combined with something via which he can be controlled. A kind
of (sf) mule: a part of him with a part of the big source. 4,8
- held like to find out what that is
- he was somehow pressed to agree that he is not powerful. He was shown that he is not
powerful and he believed it. Not being powerful.
- he somehow doesn't believe it, even if he was proven he's not
- he was shown there's a missing part of him and therefore he's not so powerful as before
and he has no other stable datum, as he forgot something and he believed he's not powerful
- he didn't handle it
- being dependent from the big source. 4,9
- would like to know what this big source really is
- he's angry now. (sf) He got betrayed, as he was brought to agree
something that held never have done if nothing would have weakened him before. He made an
error to invalidate himself.
He gets the whole thing. He was very curious about this thing to look at and there he
was "cut" with wavelenghts and very overwhelmed by that. And then, he was
in parts, and somebody told him: you are not so strong as you think you were, as now you
era split apart! FED 4,75. And then the big source took his part from him, and told him
something terrible happened to him, so somebody else else told he was weak and not so
powerful. Then the big source took a part of him so he always knows whether he feels good
or not, and told him to sleep and the this blackness occured. He got unconcsious in that
and he was told that everything would be new after that, that he was dead at that point,
but that he shouldn't worry and that held come to life again at the right time. He woke up
and saw that huge light which was the big source and told him that he is because of the
big source and held not be if the big source had not bring him to life again and that they
will now work together and make a contract that will bind them together forever. The big
source had that part of him.. and he didn't understand that ... and the big source gave a
part of him and then there was a postulate laying above these 2 parts and the postulate
was: We are one and one is all and all is the big source and without the big source would
be nothing! 4,85 So he was totally connected to the big source. And then there's something
more about that... They made the postulate and it was kept by the big source, so the big
source can see what he is doing and then he was kicked out, thrown onto something and
there he was stopped, and these wavelenghts caused him pain and if he didn't follow the
orders if the big source, that would happen to him, and lot was told to him that this was
coming from another way and that if he didn't follow the big source this would happen to
him again as the right way was following the bin source. 4,9 Then he did his job!
- he did his job, having the connection to the Anti-MEST body and influencing it via
Anti-Theta
- he doesn't want to be where he is
- held like to get away, but he doesn't know how he should do that
- afraid to be punished (penalties)
- he tries not to put too much attention on what he's doing
- he's kind of screaming+protesting 5,0
- the same, but a bit more (sf)
- he's bitting around him. Fighting.
- he's jumping up and down
- impression as if held lay on a bed, but fixed, couldn't move
- he went insane
- total fear
- held look for somebody to help him
- kind of a big hand taking him up and holding him
- he was very thankful and feeling better
- the one with the big hand was talking to him and he was always saying yes.
- the big source saved him and now he's connect with him, so he is
safe and keeps safe, when he signs this contract.
- being with god and safe and nothing will happen like the little child with his mother
- he was very happy 5,1
- the contract with the 2 parts - kind of a marriage, obligation forever. And then some
thing happens and during the contract all was nice, shining and warm and after that he
kicked, thrown out and the big source showing him his real face. You can't come Tee from
me and now I'll use you! then he's hanging there can't move, on an automatic basis and
every time these waveslenghts come to him, he's hit by them and relays it to the body or
what ever he's ordered to do. He feels heavily PTS actually! 5,15
- he thinks he is astonished (laughs)
Repeat 2.) he was handled! He did nothing. FBD 511 He's shaking and something falling
apart from him! He's just a little tiny sparkling thing 5,1
- being alive again
- nothing to handle right now 5,05
- he is
- nothing to handle about that
- total charge feeling total anger. (sf)
- screaming again
- he would beat everything down if he could. Totally charged
- he throws things around 5,1
- he's terrible screaming and suddenly falls down and is dead
- he's just laying there
- still laying there
- still
OT: heavily charged feeling coming body-wise
- Old like to kill her 5,15
- nothing special. somatics
- he's running against something and thrown back and so on
- he tries that and falls down
- the guy is jumping up and down and always bumping his head while doing that
- finally he falls down
- an emotion
- falling down
- NO!
- sensations
- feeling that he's withdrawing
- he seems not even to be there
- he's not there
- what a silly question! if I am not there how I'd handle it! (he's laughing, but not
funny)
- giving her somatics
- more somatics to her
- he's in control position to her 5,2
- he can make her feel good or bad and she can do nothing against it
- (heavy yawnings) total charged feeling
- he's not supposed to handle it. Supposed to give it!
- him giving her rude names
- not handled
- he's jumping around and making nonsense
- not handled
- no answer
- somatics FBD 5,0
- not being touchable. She could not reach him
- it's not his problem
- he's making a joke out of her
- he handles it very well, giving her somatics and laughing at her
- laughing
- more laughing
- he can't do what he wants to do. Held like to do more but he can't. He's terrible angry
and mad at the moment and overcharged somehow. Feels overcharged and can't get out of it
- he's screaming again 5,1
- giving her somatics
- he can't handle it and can't bear it any longer
- insanity
- he can't handle it 5,1
- he says to himself that he is insane. so he's insane, so he's nearly dying of insane he
is FBD 5,0
- he can't handle it
- screaming
- he can't handle it
- screaming and somatics
- if he could he'd throw the cans into her face (sf)
- all the time he's telling her existing conditions
- and he can't handle it 5,0
- he can't tell her anymore
- he can't handle it
- No! He will not look at it! This is too terrible! FBD 4,9
- he hasn't handle it
- he is screeming: no, no, no ....
- he's pulled back into something, but still screaming (sf) 4,85
- held burst and somatics
- throwing something to the Anti-MEST body
- he's laying somewhere and in total terror, trying to fight it and get out of it
- he can't handle it
- he's screaming and crying: no, no, no
- very heavy feeling of waiting to jump up and run away very fast
- still No! Laying somewhere and can't get up and quite good somatics about that, that the
OT is having regarding these pictures
- tries to get free 5,15
- being killed
- somebody told him: I kill you. He says: You can't kill me. The other: Yes. I show you
that I can kill you terrible fighting. And a weapon going through his lungs even if he-had
no body and there's total stuckness, like freezing and total blackness and he's thinking:
I'm dead, I'm dead
- he's dead
- he was dead
- into this kind of blackness there was a sun-rising and ha's thinking: well, the sun is
rising and 1 can see it, so I'm not dead. He has a bit of hope. 5,1
- didn't
- a very bright light telling him he was dead and-that the light was god and that he was
only seeing pod because he was dead!
- he thought it was not too bed to be deed as this was nice
- being a child of god (sf) 5,05
- tried to be a nice child of god (sf) 5,0 Everything was fine and he was in heaven and
was proud to meet god, that god was very friendly and he is totally charged. His emotion
connected to this is hate!
- being God's creation (in 1.1)
- it was a nice creation of god. He did all god said and was always loved. Very nice!
(1.1)
- being in the hands of god: in prison!
- he didn't. He was a big asshole, as he agreed that he could be split apart and was an
asshole to believe this could be done. And god is a big asshole! Mis-using postulates.
This is all a big lie! And he made that contract! And how he could do that and make
that silly job instead of being a free Thetan! He went into a trap!
- being totally pissed. 5,1
- if he could held beat god into his face
- he can't go free
- trying to handle it
- screaming again FBD 5,0
- screaming a bit more
- feeling horrible. FBD 4,9 Can't bear it! And he's giving that feeling to OT's body
- he can't handle it
- being totally betrayed, knowing he can't do anything about it
- he can't handle it
- in the condition of can't handle it as he can't contact it. He can't do what we suppose
him to do! He really goes mad about that
- he can't handle 4,95
- he can't bear it any longer
- he can't 4,9
- there won't be any existing condition nay longer if we go on like this
- can't FBD 4,8
- being fooled. And it's his own fault!
- can't 4,75
- he made agreements he shouldn't have made 4,9
- can't
- he's right and can't
- he did something which affects him Idly and he's not willing to look at it, as then, he
would be wrong and wants to be right
- he's the fool FBD 4,2
- he plays the fool FBD 4,75
- sensations
- more sensations
- he won't tell her
- he can't handle it
- being fooled
- his own fault. 4,9 He's such a fool and he won't look at it. Now he knows it is his
fault. He is responsible and guilty for what is happening to him. It's terrible. He's not
willing to look at what he agreed.
- he can't handle it
- can't
- he can't
- not willing to handle it. Held-loose his-own respect.
- afraid 5,0 to look at it
- afraid to handle it
- that he made that agreement
- didn't yet1. This
- he didn't and afraid to
- LFBD 4,65 he's silly
- hp's silly
- he doesn't reach it
- he can't 4,7
- OT: it's like a mock-up and not even a guy - I have that feeling
4,75
- he can' t
- unable to be a Thetan
- she, he's not a Thetan
- he's not there
- nothing to handle if he's not there
- not being
- nothing to handle
- he doesn't tell her
- nothing to handle
- he's not there
- nothing to handle
- no2. no1. he's not
- he can't
- he's not
- no
- no
(Interference: Tone 4o: Out of session) 5,1
- no
- Lost! (guy crying)
- he lost. He couldn't handle it and losers can't handle anything. LFBD 4,85
- broken down
- couldn't
- having failed as a Thetan
- withdraw from what he failed
- (OT crying) crying
- there was nobody there who told him that he wasn't too wrong. There could be points as
well where he could be right. He lost terrible. He lost .... (name)!! FRD 5.0
- (OT crying) he's created
- he handled it badly FBD 4,9 because he didn't do his purpose!
- (OT crying) (sf) He says he is created by her! .... (name of OT)!!! LFBD 4,7
- he didn't handle it very well
- he was created to be and then he was trapped and was used against her. He was a kind of
a Clone or a duplicate of her, just to be, free Thetan, and he was trapped by what we have
found out already and was used as Anti-Thetan to influence her via the Anti-MEST body 4,95
And he was so silly to go into this trap and being used against his own creator (her) and
he didn't want to look at and tell her as he was ashamed of having failed so badly. He is
a Clone trapped, and made as an Anti-Thetan of her to control her Anti-MEST body.
- he didn't do it well 5,0
- his purpose: he was created to be, but there is something more... 5,1 to find out
something and experience and come back and tell her. And he was trapped into that where
the wavelenghts started. And he trusted this person, so he was not suspicious about this,
as he was supposed to experience and was too fool and went into this trap and then
continiously making overts against her, but because he wanted to do something near her,
this was very useful, to use him against her ... it's good that all is known now as now he
can be a large guy again.
(OT: he's no longer an Anti-Thetan LFBD 4,8 and he's much bigger now and there's a huge
relief and not the glassball anymore FBD 4,7 And the somatics are gone
- it is handled 4,85
- being invalidated
- he doesn't understand it. Because he looked at what he never looked! Is not ok, or what?
5,0
- he has the EP!
- what else should be handled?
- he is 5,05 and is free and nothing else except that
- nothing more to handle
- he is he
- nothing to handle about that
- no other
- nothing to handle
- nothing else 5,15
- nothing to handle
- no ... he is! 5,12. Nothing
- no
- no
(Tone 40 to any interference: Out of session!)
- he is he
- nothing
- he is created, but he is he 4,95
- nothing
- 1. FBD 4,8 no answer
- FBD 4,75
- he's there and everything is ok
- nothing more
- he won't. Feels totally invalidated as he feels good!
- nothing
- no
- no need to handle 4,8
- he's protesting
- what can he do! Nobody believes him!
- no
- no
- no other
- no
- he is!
- nothing
- he is
- nothing 4,8
- what do we want from him now? He feels fine and waits to finish. He doesn't understand
why we continue
- he should leave. That would handle the situation! no
- no
- no
- no
- he is! That's all! 5,0
- nothing
- no other
- nothing
- no
- no
- no
- no
- no
- no
- no
- if nothing is there, it's nothing to be handled!
- being handled and now being invalidated 5,0
- he can't
- no
- nothing
- none
- nothing
(OT: can't we make a break!? LFBD 4,85) (Break - 4,85 (2))
Continue PrPr 6 on
Glass-ball-guy
3,0 (2) - sticky needle
Anything happened between sessions? LFBD 3,65 1 really have the feeling that this
guy is connected to ...(3 other Pre-OTs and Pre-OT herself). Just a very strong idea of
that.
Body-wise I have the feeling like having got too much radiation. 4,8 At night,
something happens, as if I continued auditing I'm not! But that's basically all. (sf) 3,95
Yes!
I have the feeling of red hopelessness! It will never end and it's really hopeless and
nothing will be the same as before, and that is not good. And 4.0 it would be better to
have a (sf) simple life. with friends, working and life could be so nice and at night
going to the disco And the world is see nice - why should I fight it? And the feeling the
she'd feel live very very good of she lived in her safe environment and not doing special
things. And this is combined with the feeling of sadness and loosing! The feeling is of
loss of all these nice things. This is really the feeling. But I (OT) think something
totally different. And this feeling is somehow pressing me down and I'd like to really be
powerful and making what we're doing enthusiastically BEING TOUGH, but this feeling
makes-it somehow heavy end I have to use effort. That's it basically.
(Break - 4,2 (2))
(Restart - 4,2 (2) - FED 4,1 the needle is not sticky now, but looser)
Contact this guy - LFBD 4,0
Continue with PrPr 6
- not to be
- not
- (sf) being nothing
- not 3,0
- there's no existing condition
- not
- there's nothing
- FBD 3,85 then there's nothing to handle as there's nothing1. maybe he is as he's
thinking
- he thinks. but maybe he's just a thought, so maybe, he's just not in actual fact
- being somebody else's thougt, so not being actually
- he handles nothing. He got and gets handled 4,0
- being nothing
- he handles nothing
- no existing condition
- not1. nothing is 4,1
- nothing is handled
- nothing is nothing
- if there's nothing then there is nothing to handle
- if nothing is, then nothing exists and there are no conditions.
- then there's nothing to handle
- being nothing
- not
- he's nothing
- not
- no existing conditions. there's nothing
- nothing to handle LFBD 3,95
- no conditions at all
- he handles nothing
- (laughs) no conditions FED 3,8
- not
- he feels disturbed in his nothingness FED 3,7 because he's nothing
- Not! For sure! FBD 3,7
- the only one is that: nothing is!
- he didn't FBD 3,6
- FBD 3,5 To condition
- not
- no!
- nothing he could tell about
- not being 3,7
- not
- there's nothing but thought and thought is nothing so there's nothing
- he's thinking but that's nothing
- no condition
- not
- no condition
- not 3,7
- FBD 3,6 still no existing condition
- not 3,61. nothing2. with nothing FED 3,5
- no condition
- not
- there's not, there wasn't and there won't be existing conditions. Just nothing!
- he didn't. doesn't and won't
- no condition
- no condition to handle 3,45
- no condition
- not 3,4
- only nothingness
- not needed to be handled
- nothing
- not
- there are none 3,5
- not
- (sf) he can't be anything else but nothing because he's nothing
- what should be handled if there's nothing1. no condition FBD 3,45
not
- he's nothing
- if there's nothing, then there is nothing that could be handled, because there is
nothing that could be handled BD 3,3
- no condition
- not
- there's no condition
- how should he handle nothing
- nothing is nothing
- not 3,5
- nothing LFBD 3,35
- not1. Nothing
didn't
- (laughs) there are no existing conditions 3,14
- doesn't
- no conditions! nothing can't be a condition, it would be something
- just silly, because you can't handle nothing
- no existing conditions
- not 3,3
- F no conditions
- nothing
- no condition
- nothing
- there's just nothing
- he's nothing so how could he handle nothing? 3,5
- no existing conditions FBD 3,4
- not1. no existing conditions
- how could he handle something not existing 3,5
- there are no existing conditions!
- he can't handle no existing conditions
- nothing
- not
- there are no existing conditions
- how could he handle something which is not existing! If there's nothing, nothing can be
handled, because there isn't even nothing that could handle it!
- nothing
- not 3,5
- no
- not
- he can't tell something which is not existing! There's nothing! FBD 3,4
- not
- no conditions
- not handled
- nothing 3,5
- not
- no conditions FBD 3,4
- not
- there are no existing conditions. Nothing can't be on a condition
- there's nothing, so it can't be handled 3,65
- no existing conditions FBD 3,55
- not
- nothing
- not
- no conditions
- not
- he's nothing in no condition
- he didn't. What should he handle!
- no condition
- not
- no condition
- not! Why should he handle nothing! 3,6
- nothing
- not FBD 3,5
- no condition
- not
- now he wants to make it very clearly: LFBD 3,4 There's nothing, and there's nothing
nothing can be handled. Have you pot it now!?
- we didn't get it, as because of there's nothing, nothing can be handled FRD 3,3
- nothing
- didn't Chat for?
- no condition 3,4
- not
- no conditions
- not 3,5
- no condition
- not
- no condition
- not
- Nothing
- not
- there's nothing
- nothing to handle
(OT: It's like a record.)
(Break - 36 (Q)
(Restart - 3,9 (2) - sticky needle)
(Continue with PrPr 6)
- being nothing
- not
- not being
- not handled
- not being
- not handled
Next 34 commands he answers with "no condition" - "not handled"
- answers - TA moving up to 4,1
- he's wondering what is aware that there's nothing, as if there was only nothing, there
couldn't be awareness! So it's not possible, awareness & nothing.
- he has to think about that
- something is aware
- he tries to find out what it is
- he is aware
- he doesn't know yet how he'll handle that
- he thought he was nothing, but he has found out he's something, as he is aware and he
can observe
- he's wondering how he came to think he's nothing, as he is aware 4,2
- he would say he is. Not what he is, but at least he is.
- he just is at the moment 4,15
- he is
- didn't
- kind of pictures he can see
- looking at that pictures (sf), FBD 4,1
- he's astonished. He seems to look at pictures that are showing him, so he must have been
before and for sure, he's not nothing
- tries to find out what happened in looking at the pictures
- FBD 4,0 he can't see anything clearly now. It's too much!
- tries to remember
- he's unconscious
- tries to wake up
- he seems to be pressed down by somebody
- he's fighting against that, but he can't fight it
- he's been told something 4,2
- he's overwhelmed by that
- he's nothing, but he's something and there's something that mixes that up. He dosen't
get it clearly. Somehow it's upside-down
- tries to fight that 4,35
- he's nothing
- he can't handle it
- he's nothing and is not aware. Because he's nothing and nothing can't be aware.
- he doesn't handle it. He's just the thought of somebody1. being the thought of somebody
he's just the thought of somebody
- he's the idea of somebody, like a potential something 4,4
- he just waited or was aware he was a though or an idea. He couldn't do anything else
- being the idea of somebody and without that somebody not being at all 4,3
- not handled
- he's potentially nothing
- he did nothing
- total unconsciousness
- not handled
- unconsciousness
- he did nothing
- he's just a mock-up of somebody. Actually there's nothing! It's just a mock-up.
- not
- total unconsciousness
- not
- total unconnciousness
- not handled
- unconsciousness
- not! He was unconscious!
- FBD 4,2 waking up again.
- not
- wondering who he is and what happened
- being shocked 4,15
- being shocked
- not
- to be but not liking it 4,3
- tries net to he
- postulated himself to he nothing
- it doesn't work 4,4
- still something
- tries to make-that something into nothing
- he can't persist being nothing, that he is always aware of wanting to be nothing, so
he's always something
- so he tries to not-is it
- he doesn't want to he
- he tries not to be, but it doesn't work
- the answer is: feeling of being there 4,4
- he tries not to he there
- he is there
- that's what he's trying to handle it, to be there but he can't handle it
- he's wondering who she is 4,5
- he's a bit astonished as he is more aware than before and obviously there is another
somethingness and there can't be nothing. Something is always. There's a lie with this
nothing! He had the idea that he is nothing, because if there would be something, it could
be terrible, so it's better there's nothing. Put it's funny! Not true! It's suppressed
life! Something wrong about that! 4,6
- he is and it is not so terrible as he thought it would be. It doesn't hurt at all
- he just started handling it, because he's making experience right now and he is very
astonished that it's very different from what he thought it would be
- he is and feels pretty fine and he's astonished of feeling pretty fine. It's ok, like if
he would expand 4,6
- 4,55 he doesn't know what happened. But now he's much better. He was dead and now come
to life and he's wondering why he was "dead".
- yes! He is!
- FBD 4935 he just starts to handle it! FED 4,3
- he's wondering who he is and what happened
- he's thinking about that, trying to remember what happened
- he was postulated to be dead (sf)
- FBD 4925 he was dead!
- being deed
- he was so 4,35
- he doesn't want to be dead, but he didn't defend himself against being dead FBD 4,2
Something happened before that and he failed and felt totally ashamed. No! He didn't
fail he was told he failed! He was trapped! FED 4,15 He was told that he had failed as a
being and that he couldn't live on with that shame and he thought
that was true and that he was not a good Thetan as he failed and he agreed it was better
not to be than living on with that shame! And then he wasn't. While he was nothing, there
is still something and he knows he is trapped as actually he didn't fail! That's not true!
- after he noticed this is a trap and now he is dead and can't come to life again, but
somehow he noticed that was a lie and not true. but it was too late 4,5
- he agreed to be dead and nothing
- he didn't handle it 4,6
- FBD 4,5 there was a time, when he was a free being, and somebody talked to him that a
real Thetan is nothing so he was something so held not be a real Thetan. So he failed in
being a real Thetan. And the other guy told him that he will help him to be nothing again
That he should postulate himself nothing and that he did, but that is an upside-down! This
is a MU between nothing and nothingness. 4,3 This is a trap and he was something: a Theta
playing a game, but he misunderstood that and he's very angry now that he went into this
trap FBD 4,2
- discovered new that he is not nothing, but he's something! He doesn't fail by being
something, but he fails by being nothing!
- he is and he's something and it's good to know 4,15
- he'll handle it in the future probably
- (OT sneezing 4,1) somatics FBD 4,0
- somatics
- he's not and somatics
- nothing to handle 4,5
- we better leave him alone. He wants to be nothing and quiet. OT: he's giving funny
somatics
- somatics
- wants to be left alone
- not handled
- somatics 4,5
- somatics
- he doesn't care what we ar doing and he won't answer
- he will not 4,55
- being something to do with her
- he thinks he is somehow helping her, but it's funny because he has to be against her
- he's her Anti-MEST body
- he's doing something with the Anti-MEST body 4,5
- being insane and so having no resposibility and so he can do whatever he wants to
- somatics
- OT: I get no answers! He's just making funny things. By the way, he
changed his position: first he was left, and then to the right and now at the same
location as my body! I don't like it so much, to be honest
-
- no answer. Just somatics
- somatics 4,6
- giving her all kinds of funny somatics 4,55
- the same
- he's kind of laughing and giving her somatics
- somatics
- somatics 4,6
- FBD 4,5 somatics FBD 4,4
- somatics
- som
- FBD 4,3
- som
OT: by the way, this is like a total change of character, like if it would be somebody
totally different. If the LFBD 4,0 postulate is around. you can't really reach the guy
inside. if the creator is connected with the postulate, he can give any answers and change
FBD 3,85 the way he wants and I said 2 or 3 times that it feels like a mock-up, willingly
changed or influenced to give certain answers or to be whatever! 4,1 This is so funny, you
see. I feel fooled! Because this guy we are auditing, he really felt a few times like at
the EO, like when he was called a Clone and then getting this kind of "EP",
he goes back to where he was at the beginning, or two times now that he changes totally!
It could really be another being! Totally different. And there's something inside! 4,5 I
have a real protest FBD 4,4 on this PrPr 6. From my feeling this can go endless with this
guy getting those so-called "EPs" and then changing this could go
endless. And sometimes I have the idea that somebody is sitting in the background and
laughing about (sf) and that what I'm auditing (sometimes I have the feeling) that it's
the mock-up of somebody and that it can't go to EP because it's nothing. He's saying
there's nothing! Sure there's something as otherwise the TA would not go up and I'm
getting answers. The question is: What is there!! 4,6 FED 4,5 One more 4,6 thing: FBI 4,5
Just one origination sometimes I though: if this is PrPr 6 to be handled to EP, I could do
that Solo, as I can audit PrPr 6 FBD 4,3 That's all FBD 4,2
Auditor: Let's make a few more commands. 4,5
- som
- som
- OT: He behaves like a little nasty child, jumping around and making faces and just
giving somatics
- som 4,65
- som
- som
- som 4,7
- som 4,75
- som
- som
- som
- som
- he's her body fool or joker. He makes "funny" things with her body.
- with what he's doing with her body
- being in total control of her body
OT: (laughs) he's there again out of the body, being the glass-ball, gray, solid... And
I'm fed up with this LFBD 4,3
- no answer
- being an automatism
- it works automatically
- he's the controller of her Anti-MEST body
- he controls her Anti-MEST body
- being elected by pod to control her Anti-MEST body
- he's giving her some nice little somatics different then before
- no answer. somatics
- he does his job for what he was created
OT tired. R-Factor about ending hers the session 4,7 Anything you want to say before
the end of the session? Yes. LFBD 4,5 It seems to be now that we are again right at the
same point than when we first contacted him. He feels the same! He feels exactly the same
as if nothing would have happened! 4,65
(EOS - 4,7 ( 2))
(Restart 24.06.88 - 4,05 (2) - nervous, hunting needle)
Anything has happened in-between the sessions? LFBD 3,85
OT: I don't know what it was, but last night something happened. And not only to
me! .... (other Pre-OT) originated this morning F that something had happened during the
night, not very good. This has to do with something happening since yesterday or maybe the
day before. 4.0 It has nothing to do with the guy we are making the PrPr 6 on. (sf) I can
hardly describe it, but body-wise there is something heavy going on. 4,04 What I will say
now is totally invalidated, but I will tell even on the risk that I get invalidated LFBD
3,85: My idea is that the guy we are handling LFBD 3,75 is used as a kind of "distraction"
FBD 3,65 to cover-up something which is happening behind that! And there is something (sf)
happening. it's very very vague ... it's covered. Rut the phenomena I pet is that it hurts
terrible... It hurts body-wise and as an emotion. It's like pain-waves which just occur,
but I feel them very heavily! And it's not only me! ... (other Pre-OT) originated this
morning that he's feeling them too. 3,8 1 can't put the finger on what' it is, but I tell
you .... there's something very nasty going on behind what is obvious ... (sf) And I
somehow get that and I know it's like this, but I have the idea that
it will not be believed. That drives me crazy and weaks me and I feel I can't do anything
about it, as we're handling this "distraction" guy, or whatever it is.
And what is happening is not only happening to me but affecting more players! We are
dealing with Anti-MEST, not MEST and things are different there! Well, that's basically
all. 3,9.
R-Factor on relaying all this to the C/S. FBD 3,85 Right now we'll continue with PrPr 6
Contact this Black Ball (sf) 3,9
PrPr6 - 4,0
- no answer, but somebody else is laughing at her
- more laughing 4,0
- OT: 4,1 I have the impression that the guy is dead and somebody also is telling her that
the guy will give her no answers 4,2 because the guy in dead FRD 4,0
- I don't get answers from the glassball, but from the other guy and the answers are: "He
killed him!" The one answering killed the one who is dead. And there are more
people going to die now 4,0
- dead ones have no condition! 3,95 (the other guy is answering)
- no answer 4,05 (OT: I kicked the other one out. as he is an interference)
- no answer! Dead! 4,15
- he's just dead. No answer, no sensations, no somatics, no feelings, no emotions
- no answer, no response! Just the impression that he is dead
- it's like he is not there anymore 4,53
- the place were he was is empty
- answer from the other guy: he returned to god
- OT: It's like not there at all
TR 3 1.1 answer from the other guy: he's in the condition of being with god! Isn't it a
nice condition? 4,5
- the other is, who is giving the answers: "He returned to god!"
- he says: if he went out of session, the glassball would as well go out of session
- 4,6 he says: Well! He created this tiny little Thetan and he can do with him whatever he
wants to.
- he is the most powerful and he can do whatever he wants with Thetans, whether he created
them or not
- all agreed he does so 4,7
- he is god and does what he wants to do
- this is too boring for him, so we can continue auditing this tiny glassball-Thetan,
which is there again now.
- no answer. Just dead.
- same 4,7
- same
- same
- same
- OT: this other guy here is not interfering the session any longer but he's running in
Anti-MEST, pulling strings and doing things, very busy and it has to do something with what happened last night! (sf)
the same 4,7
- same
- same
- same
- OT: while (sf) we are handling this guy, there are things happening that I can perceive
that we should be handled or handling! That's what I'm perceiving! FBD 4,6
- no response. Dead! 4,7
- same
- no response, but the guy who is so busy, is laughing like mad 4,75
- the same
- no answer 4,8
- no response
- the other guy is asking her, that if she wants a few answers from the dead one, he can
make the "dead one" give her a few answers! Rut just the answers he tells
the "dead one'' to say to her and no more (very 1.1)
- no response 4,81. the "dead one" is repeating the commands back! LFBD
4,6 and the other one is laughing FBD 4,52. repeating the command
- repeating the command
- repeating the command 4,65 like an echo, but without life: just stupidly repeating while
still dead 4,7
- Repeating
- Repeating
- no response
- no response
- no response 4,0
- no response
(Break - 4,8 (2))
After about 10 hours on PrPr 4 and then PrPr 6 the Black Ball went through different
periods when he started to cognite something and then the TA went down a little bit! At
those points, he always was thrown back into automatism or/and repeating the same thing as
when before the cop he was having! Like working very hard for one hour or so in order he
gets a cog, he bumps into that something and he loses the cog and start again. After all
those hours, he went back to the exact original starting point when we contacted him. This
happened by the end of last session yesterday. The Pre-OT has big protests about PrPr 6
and also asserts to perceive this guy is just a "distraction" to
waste our time, while something nearby is going on body-wise behind this. Not only this,
but today, at the beginning of the session, she was originating that something regarding
this has happened last night, and in this session we find the guy with NO-RESPONSE BEING TOTALLY DEATH, and there's another guy in charge of him, laughing at the
whole thing, saying he is god, and able to make the "dead one" give the
answers he wants to. Another detail is that the only times the needle really makes LFBDs
and changes of characteristics is when the Pre-OT talks about the perception of the other
thing first to handle and the feeling of protest and heavy attack and this just being a "distraction".
The only time session period the TA was in lower range was in a session yesterday, that we
did with me on a huge win after a Solo-session, and the amount of outflow of Theta at that
moment was the responsible to make some kind of a general key-out and the TA was lower the
whole session, but the needle pattern, answers and TA motion was the same! Automatism and
varying 2 or 3 subdivisions, depending on the point. Another point is that the PrPr 6 went
very well until the guy contacted there was this co-postulate of his and god around him.
Until that point the cogs and improvement were good and TA going down!
From that point on, it has been a vicious repetitive cycle and going with increasing
protests and bad indicators and feeling of "bogged". As I already
communicated, I've already handled 2 or 3 of these guys, starting finding the postulate
(Co-postulate) and running the usual procedure for a postulate-thetan, with special care
on the B/CB Steps to handle first the Co-postulate as a mule, and then the guy with the
Who question. And it worked very well. The differences here are two:
- here, the guy is unresponsive
- we didn't know when we started with PrPr 4 - PrPr 6, that there was this Co-Postulat
around him!
But, now we know it and at the moment she starts talking about the feeling and protest
and perception, the needle goes back very responsive!
My explanation is as follows:
PrPr 6 handles the conditions. But the guy is in "No-Condition" by his
own postulate, held by Xenu forever as they agreed, so the moment he starts cogniting he
crashes against his own postulate of Not Being - No Condition ... + Xenu's postulate on
that, and that is senior and stronger to his current state totally implanted. That, plus,
the "possible" special treatment-he has received last night to become
totally NO RESPONSE!
Suggested. C/S:
- Getting that postulate affecting the whole thing
- Running it on PrPr 1
V/I R/W
PrPr 3
as usual, and then on the B/CB Steps, handling the co-postulate. Then just checking -
PrPr 6, PrPr 4, PrPr 5 on the guy, and if any unflat, nun it to EP, and then rest of B/CB
Steps to EP
- Let the Pre-OT have a win.
- Auditor -
75 - 13 July 88
C/S from Sn C/S:
- include the interference Postulate Thetan in the Process (Clear commands when he shows
up) as obviously the guy being run can not cognite fully as he is not all there, but part
is held by the postulate or he is a MOCO of the Postulate or partly MULED with it.
- When EP occurs do a B/CB, then folder to C/S.
BR
Sr C/S Ron's - 25.06.88
( - 4,0 (2) - hunting needle)
Anything happened between the sessions? (sf), (sf) Yes, the usual yak, yak... F
.... (other Pre-OT) phoned this morning and told me that (another Pre-OT) was screaming at
him and invalidating him and telling him that he's not allowed to see me because I'm the
wife of (another Pre-OT) and she already told him that. He told her the truth that he went
yesterday morning to have breakfast with me and she said: "WHAT?!!!!!"
Like this were the last thing on Earth! He told her that he's grown up and he can meet
whoever he wants to. She said: "As long as you are living in my place you have to
follow my rules!" He said: "OK!" Then he told here that she
should never scream at him like this. NEVER!!! As he was totally pissed off about things
she puts her nose in that were not her business. Then he left home and phoned me from a
public phone.
That's the usual yak-yak
Anything? Yes, I'm pissed about that. Who the hell they think they are?!
ARCX? (sf) I guess so.
Whose it is? (sf)
I got it's mine. But I'm not sure
Whose?
(sf) It's mine!
L.D.? x
OK! We take it as a usual ARCX.
What:
I'm obviously not allowed to do anything with (other Pre-OT) as if I do something with
him something happens that beat back 10 times and basically I have the feeling that it
will never resolve! I have the feeling that I have to fight and I don't want to fight
against others. Ax Rx Cx Ux, Kx Rx Cx Px, Theta x, Static x?
Any other Break?
I have no idea! Ideal Scene x?
Let's check again who's this ARCX: Yours? x Anothers? x 4,35
Pre-OT: What I think, there is an ARCX, but I don't think it LFBD 4.2 will resolve, as
it is continously and directly connected with what we're handling! I don't think this is
going to solve! Sure there's an ARCX and it could be another "distraction"
and that's why I was not so willing to talk about the usual yak-yak... F/N GIs.
Auditor gives R-Factor from Senior C/S about research. Pre-OT agrees and
understands.
Pre-OT clearing words and command to everybody involved; guy, interference guy,
Postulat-Thetan, etc. 4.25
- LFBD 4,15 I'm God. - I'm dead. - I'm you. (Pre-OT: 2 guys being 2 postulates around this
guy FBD 4,1) I'm not. FBD 4,0
- Not. FBD 3,9 - I am. - That's too silly. - Well, I'm just all
- We are together. - I'm dead. - I am not and all. - silly, silly, silly! 4,1
- I'm the biggest guy and doing whatever I want. - not. - trying to come together but it's
not possible!
- being created. - being just a foll - being misused - being the greatest guy 4,25
- not handled - fighting without winning - winning without fighting - always winning -
always loosing 4,35
- being imprisoned and realizing that - being the prisoner without wanting to he that -
holding both of them - having fun in watching the fight that will no nowhere
- wants to break free hut cannot - wants to let go but has to hold -
wants to hold hut has to let go - enjoying to see that
- 4,15 being so close together that not even notizing that they are not one 4,25 - being
the postulate to hold all this together. realizing that there are differences - winning
loosing - no movement, no motion - having arranged the composition of that
- FBD 4,15 handled it perfectly Nearly, nearly unsolvable! - having to be positive (in the
sense of charge) - having to be negative - having to be neutral (Positive: 1st
Postulat Negative: 2nd postulate, Neutral: guy in the middle) 4,3 - being one
- being the creator and controller of all and everything. Handling Thetans like puppets
FBD 4,2 - being her - being someone else - not being oneself 4,3
- pulling strings and arranging things behind the scene - controlling - not controlling
being controlled 4,35
- being her postulate - being the opposite of that - react on that . holding all together
- playing with her - not playing with her - wanting to play with her - can't play with her
- being a player - being a no-player - being an Anti-Player - being a piece which is
played with
- FBD 4,25 played -being played - not want to play - have to play
- being the player of all players - being a part of a player - being an anti-part of a
player - being a dumped part of a player
- playing with all players 4,45 - not playing - have to reach for playing. have to
withdraw from playing
- Came Condition - Games Conditions - Games Conditions - 4,3 No-Game Conditions (in the
negative sense: LFBD 4,1 death, total barriers, not-knowing
- knows that he knows FBD 4,0 -has to reach for knowingness and can't reach it - has to
withdraw from knowingness and can't withdraw - not know
- 4,2 wanting to play together but playing against each other - standing in the middle as
separation and connection -causing connection and separation arbitrarily 4,4
- playing with Thetans to influence them - being influenced by Thetans to influence Thetan
- being influenced by Thetans to influence Thetans to influence Thetans FBD 4,3 - funny to
look at it like this. OT: It seems not as solid as before this whole arrangement!
- being THE guy 4,35 - a guy who has a certain purpose 4,5 - a guy having the anti-purpose
the other is held by that on one side and on the other side is connecting it and it is
neutral
- can't handle it - not allowed to handle it - wants to handle it but can't - handled it
- uses 4,5 - being used - being used pro - being used contra
- did it - did not - did wrong - did right 4,35
- absolutely right - absolutely wrong - half right, half wrong - half wrong, half right
- always doing the right things -always doing the wrong things - being half right - being
half wrong
- 4,25 total rightness - total wrongness - half rightness - half
wrongness (smiles LFBD 4,0)
OT: this really seems to work from my feeling and like there are no barriers when we
were auditing the glassball alone, he was changing: first it was the guy inside, the he
changed into the "positive" Postulate and then the "Negative"
Postulate came up and then again he was the guy inside. That was my impression at the very
beginning of this, as they thought they were one. And now it's totally different: it's not
one guy, it's really four guys.
- being influenced - having to influence - having to influence (in PC) - having to anti
influence, or influence against the influence - influencing 4,4
- being the top - being the right - being the left - being the middle
- pressing from the top - pressing from the right - pressing from the left - pressing down
- being the creator - being created from her - being created from somebody else - being
created
- creating - creating - creating - creating
- creating pain - creating implosion - creating explosion - creating charge from the
different poles
- giving the pain to all three - pressing outwards - pressing inwards - pressing downwards
- being an automatism - being the creator of the automatism - being the activator - being
the Anti- (opposite of) Activator
- 4,3 activate - anti-activate - giving that to the anti-MEST body - pressing the trigger
- doingness - beingness - havingness - nothing
- to exert control - having nothing - being nothing - nothing
- total effect - total cause - half cause - half effect
- causing - effecting - causing the effect - effecting the cause
- monitoring - monitoring to the left and down - monitoring to the right and down - being
monitored to monitor others
- giving orders - getting orders and changing it to the right, like: Drink! Hot Water! -
And the other one gets the same order Drink!, changes it into Cold deter! the other one
relays all this to the Anti-MEST body 4,35
Pre-OT: I'm hungry LFBD 4,0
(Break - 4,2 (2))
(Restart 4,45 (2) - hunting needle)
Continue with PrPr 6
- being Anti-MEST m being Anti-Theta - being, Anti-Thetan - being Anti-Static
- causing a game being part in the game - being anti-part in the game c being effect of
the game
- 4,5 being the god of Anti-MEST - being a servant of god - not being a servant but having
to be a servant for god - just being a tool
- being all and everywhere, influencing, directing, controlling everything - trying to
break free - trying to suppress - being suppressed and suppress
- being Xenu - being her - being anti-her - being not-her
- laughing - crying - hating - is not 4,55
- no condition -influenced condition - influenced condition - influencingness
- influences all and everything - influencing truth -influencing emotions - influencing
body 4,6
- being himself - being her beingness - being against her beingness -being her body
beingness
- does like he does - keeping turned-around truth - fighting against that truth -
transforming this and relaying it to the body
- being the top of the top - keeping emotions - giving counter-emotions - giving all this
to the body 4,75
- giving pain - giving pain - trying not to give pain - giving pain 4,8
- lost - win - body - soul
- soul gives pain - body gets lost - lost is pain - pain is body 4,9
- being killed - being killer - being failed salvager - being the cause of this
- was the body and so is not - being the killer and so being wrong - failed and so being
wrong too - having the right to make wrong 4,9
- being dead - causing death - not able to salvage life - being the master of death -
- died - dying - losing - winning
- being dead, but being alive - being alive, but being dead - can't live because dead -
dead and alive
- not really dying - not really living - living dying - laughing
- being cause over death and life - being life - being death - being both
- taking life and giving death - suppressing death - suppressing life - suppressing birth
- can't live - can't die - can't live, can't die - living
- being randomity - being plus-randomity - being minus-randomity - being no-randomity 4,95
- being source - being effect - being turned-around source - being turned-around source
- causing - causing the opposite - causing the opposite of the opposite - being effect of
all those
- being god - being an angel - being a demon - nothing
- controlling all - fighting evilness - fighting good - fighting nothing
- being unlimited - being limited in a certain direction - being limited in the opposite
certain direction - being limited
- does whatever he wants - does whatever he doesn't want to - does whatever he has to -
not influencing that 5,0
- being smashed down - being turned around - being opposite of turned around - being the
one who turns around --
- surrender-- tries to turn around back - tries to reach the opposite - creating all that
- 4,95 laughing 5,0 - smashed down - 3x
- 5,0 Hopeless - it doesn't matter that this is hopeless - just being dead 5,05 - creating
the contradictions
- being something else 3x - being what he is
- can't remember 3x - I know it!
- being somehow pressed together 5,1 - being an implanter - the three being pressed
together 2x
- stuck together - being confused 3x
- not knowing 3x - knowing!
- forget it 5,05 - can't remember it - no need to remember - knowledge about that
- intend 5,0 - intend something else - intention - relaying intention
- intends to suppress - intends to get free - intends to not go free - intends to hurt
- evil purpose - fighting that - fighting that fighting - being the tool of the evil
purpose
- 2, influencing Anti-MEST body - trying to suppress this influence - trying to enforce it
- holding all together
- SP - PTS/SP - SP/PTS - PTS
- suppressing - just doing what is told to do - fighting against 2x 5,1
- 1, being used to influence Anti-MEST body - trying to withdraw from the other - trying
to enforce the order - giving the order
- 5,1 giving the orders - trying to hold it back - trying to relay it - trying to do it
- being connected to good and bad - being connected to bad and nothing - to good and
nothing - to all
- fighting good - fighting bad - fighting nothing - fighting all
- being all - being nothing - being good - being bad 5,1
- being all - can't be good - can't be bad - can't be nothing
Pre-OT: Now it starts to To in a circle again! FBD 5,0 Hard to describe. it's like
running around and starting at the beginning and then, at the arrival point, getting at
the beginning again. The impression is that now it starts to become repeateadly again. The
answers are very similar and also already given, and at the beginning it went quite fine,
but now it doesn't change FBD 4,9 it's like there is something pressing in, which is not
touched and that should be touched. And I'm terrible tired. 5,0
I again have the feeling FBD 4,9 that there are things happening right now FBD 4,8
which don't have to do with this we're doing, but running beside but are evil! And the
impression from the auditing I have now, is like searching for an entrance to get a thing
handled, which is in actual fact UNDERNEATH or ABOVE that, which should be solved, or it
would be the solution for this arrangement as it is. And my impression is that we are not
going to find that "entrance-point" with this, I have the feeling LFBD
4,75 that I'm sitting here and doing things while other things are going on, that should
be handled immediately! And this is very heavily going on regarding (other Pre-OT). He'd
be in a very high danger and I can do nothing about it. That's the feeling and it hurts.
Back to PrPr 6
4,85
- god is laughing - one is crying - one is hating - one is dead 4,9
- not handled - can't handle - won't handle - already handled 5,0
- fighting all - fighting good - fighting bad - not fighting
- already winning - never winning - always loosing - not at all
- having all under control - having good under control - not having bad under control -
not controlling at all
- not controlling 3x controlling 5,05
- being death and life - being death - being life - not being
- living - dying - not living - nothing
(R-Factor about Break - Anything you want to say? I continually have the feeling like
if butterflies are flying in my stomach since this morning and it worsened now and my
a(ttention?) is pulled to (other Pre-OT). He's not thinking of me, but something is
happening to him and I think it has to do with that what is going on behind the scene.
That's it basically.)
(Break - 4,95 (2))
Auditor's Comment: At the beginning this PrPr 6 on this group of 4 guys was
providing a lot of data. Then, gradually the TA went more and more up, almost no TA action
at all, but just going up and same answers repeatedly and apparently bogged and going
nowhere. The only times this pattern has changed and TA went down and Pre-OT's indicators
went better, was who Pre-OT originates that there is something behind this holding it all
down and that should be handled first, or even would be the solution for the whole
arrangement. On the rest her indicators increasingly worse and worse, as well as
increasing terrible tiredness.
Suggested C/S: same as yesterday.
- Auditor -
(Restart - 3,1 (2) - hunting needle)
R-Factor: Continue with the handling. That somebody's whatever you were talking
about in last session you should include it now in the session as well. 3,3
Pre-OT: Yes, but how?
Auditor: Can you contact it?
No.
Clarification of what's exactly what she should get into the session 3,5
Pre-OT: I have no idea what it is.
Auditor: We start the process anyway and clear the words and commands to all the
guys involved and also trying to reach this other something.
3,55 In any case, anything adding up during the process should be embraced by it.
PrPr 6
3,6
- 4 nothings
- not handled
- being changeable 4x
- changing
- being created
- doing what they ware created for
- no answers 3,7
- not handled
- four depending on one
- no answer
- being the big white light - being independent, but now, dependent by agreement (the
other four)
- keeping the agreements - forgot the agreements
- I am to become I was! - trying to find the agreements
- 3,85 making it a never-ending cycle. It ends where it started. Something breaking out of
routines, automatically or something like that.
- being all in one 3,95
- connecting lines together 3,9
- being connected - connect
- trying to find out the connection - withholding the connection
- 4,0 being a multi-postulate-guy - having given their-postulates away-and forgotten about
it
- you will not get IT - won't have it - won't reach it - won't resolve it - don't continue
- keeping considerations - having lost considerations - turning around considerations and
mixing them up - going effect on the mix-up - going effect on the mix-up
-
- 4,2 being built by postulates (all five)
- by postulates
- postulating 4,15 - hiding postulates
- (The postulate the guys are even the postulates, or keeping them!) he turns around the
postulates against their creators, getting so Anti-Postulates
- 4,25 having all postulates nd using them
- he keeps these postulates and hiding them
- to be,
- to be what they are postulated
- being effect of the postulates 4,3
- FBD 4,2 FBD 4,15 they forgot the postulates and are doing now something without knowing
really why. - being turned around and being the one who turns around, having been himself
tuned around as well.
- Pre-OT: It seems that now something else is interfering. Maybe I end up running PrPr 6
on the whole Anti-MEST stuff.
Auditor: What's interfering?
OT: Well, my attention is pulled to (other Pre-OT)
Anything else?
No, just that. Something is going on
Auditor: So. clear commands and words also to that and we include it into the
PrPr 6:
Pre-OT: I don't know what I'm auditing now. It's funny! When we got to this fifth guy,
the Multi-Postulate, is like the other five guys vanished! And now, that I contacted this
other interference this Multi-Postulate is vanishing too! FBD 4,1 FBD 4,1 That what should
be handled seems to be very close now. It's much more simple than handling a
Multi-Postulate!
It's more in life! My problem now is how should I include this in the session? I can't
locate it. This other, I can't locate it. It's very vague. Even if .... (other Pre-OT) is
at home now and having trouble with his mother this is not the reason why my attention is
pulled into this. There must be something else about that! 4,2
Auditor: So clear commands and words to whatever is that
and we continue with the process.
- danger (Pre-OT: new interference. No answers from the other five.)
- connecting up this and that
- having to fight to survive
- fighting
- using all tools and set-ups to fight
- works pretty yell, but it's much to do not to lose control
- Pre-OT: it vanished! And now my attention is pulled to all these people 4,3 connected:
FBD 412 (6 other Pre-OTs) plus what is connecting them! So my attention is pulled there an
it seems to be this!
(Break - 4,2 (2))
Before this session, we (Pre-OT and Auditor) were having a walk and I gave her the
R-Factor about making the needed PR handling about (other Pre-OT's) mother and not seeing
(another Pre-OT) during this Review, and the big necessity to set all the necessary
conditions there to make possible this Review go on. After the talk and walk, the TA was
much lower. Nothing she wanted to say from in-between sessions, and including "that
something behind the scene": Result: we got a fifth guy in session and they went
into all answering being a MULTI-POSTULATE. At that point. all these five guys somehow
vanished away and Pre-OT got her attention on (other Pre-OT). Following the C/S, she
cleared words and commands to that whoever it was around the other Pre-OT (she couldn't
really recognize the guy): And going on with PrPr 6. we got the answers of "being
in control of all this!"
Then he vanished and the attention of Pre-OT pot pulled to the whole of the players:
6 other Pre-OT's and all the network and things around all of them. At that point I
ended that session to get a C/S. - My reasoning is from all the observed: We are very
close to the top holder, totally hidden to make this look like a never-ending cycle! Funny
enough, on the list of postulates, Counter-Postulates and so on from all these guys, there
was one who was just "neutral" just "observing"....
Well, now after pushing and pushing on the direction of handling this Black Ball,
attention of Pre-OT goes to (other Pre-OT) and from that to the whole network! - Well, my
estimation is that this MULTI-Postulate embracing the 5 guys will be (is) lined up with
some other postulate around (Pre-OT mentioned above).
Suggested C/S:
As now the attention of the Pre-OT went up to the whole network, including Players, I
think it would be not gold to run PrPr 6 on all of them. - I'd address the attention of
the Pre-OT back to the Glass Ball and would ask for
LFBD VGIs laughs FEELING in relation to it.
Tracing back the FEELING
Finding the POSTULATE
Handling the Postulate as per PrPr 1, V/I R/W, PrPr 3 and B/CB Steps,
being very careful if all these five guys of "Black
Ball" disappear on that. (Possibly the Postulate is from ... (Pre-OT mentioned
above) or somebody around him.) (We'd see) - If after that, the guys of the Black Ball are
not fully handled yet, I'd check:
- PrPr 6 to EP
- PrPr 4 to EP
- PrPr 5 to EP
- B/CB Steps
If this still didn't handle, I'd check again for feeling, trace back, Postulate, and
I'd handle this new one preventing the whole thing to blow. But, according to session
evidences and the wax these Postulates Networks work, I'd say that once the main
Postulate/Intention coming from whoever is (other Pre-OT or whatever), the rest will go
off like hot butter (the 5 guys of the Glassball)
- Folder to Sn C/S
- After that, I'd go back in order, closing all cycles in sequence, and only handling any
other interference showing up which stops the session, besides that sequence of closing
the already opened cycles.
- Auditor
Before next session, clear with Pre-OT the Dynamics to 12 with what and who can be on
them. Her ideal scene will be containing all these dynamics. The process is
apparently unfixing attention on 1st and 2nd and broadening out to
include the real why that the ideal scene was not obtained. Then pick up from where
you left off on the PrPr 6. She should be able to confront handling any number of Dynamics
and Players and MOCOs and Creations (+ & -) at this level - to get to her ideal scene
- which does contain ideals for all Dynamics to No. 12.
- BR
Sn C/S Ron's -
( - 396 (2)) (Hunting loose needle)
Anything from in-between the sessions
Yes! I have heavy headaches, like migrain, and I had not got them for months and I got
it after the last session from yesterday and it's going worse.
I'm just astonished, because I didn't have it for months. (sf) The 2nd thing is
regarding (other Pre-OT mentiond above). It's very funny, because he's describing things
that we are handling as if he would know this stuff. For example, that there are
connections between Thetans influencing Thetans and that there must be very old Postulates
influencing Thetans.. and things like that, which is totally no! up to his level (OT III).
I was astonished regarding that, because he originating that to me... And he says he can
remember these things, because I'm there and because of my influence, he's coming to
remember these thinks. He observed all these scenarios and 3P against me and that he
noticed that at a certain point of this Review, he perceived that this wouldn't be just a
Review any longer, but kind of something new ... He said, that whatever he is saying,
looking like, doing ... he will totally be loyal to me in supporting me on whatever he
can, because he pets large amounts of 3P, mentally against me and that's something very
hard for him! About .... (other Pre-OT I'd like to mention: she originated that she
cognited at the end of Excalibur that there must be a kind of Implanter Org-Board in which
Xenu is just a part and yesterday evening she originated again to me,
that there must be an org-board set up before these games. 3,7
Clearing up to 12 Dynamics: 3,45 all going fine and good indicators up to Ethics:
examples and sentences (smiles) the rest is OK
Anything you want to say: I don't understand why we clear this.
R-Factor about clearing all this according to next handling. Good! Then every Dynamic
has its own ideal scene? Sure! .. and then interlocked ok! I got it right!
PrPr 6
Pre-OT: I have a question: the other guys vanished and technically I have the
question of how letting the answers?
Auditor: I cleared her the group-auditing procedures and opened TRs. 4,0
Clearing words and commands.
PrPr 6
- War FBD 3,9 general
- fighting - being neutral - being effect hating it - trying to withdraw - causing it -
enforcing supporting fighting - loving it not wanting to have to do with it - being used
in it killing - suppressing - using it - not understanding it - not wanting to have it -
being involved in it - LFBD 3,7
- FBD 3,6 Total enturbulation
- not understanding it - using it - hating - enforcing - trying to stop it - Pre-OT orig.:
the attention gets into my body, so I include my body and Anti-MEST body. So Pre-OT
include also that. 3,8
- observing it - effect - cause - deathness - confusion - sillyness - sickness - turn
aroundness - implanterness - unwillingness - dullness
- went insane regarding it couldn't - can't - doesn't want - playing - effect - not
wanting - loving it - 4,0 still handling it
- general being astonished: something is going on. but what is going on?
- listening trying to not-is it - fight - run away - curious - wondering - not even
noticing it not caring for it - thinking about how to-handle it - having hope - enjoying
it - supporting it 4,2
- being SP: some more SP and some more PTS, the same condition but in different gradients
of SP/PTS
- fighting the SP - gave up - not knowing what to do - suppressing - affecting other
Thetan - trying to run away trying to understand - can't handle - just doesn't care -
not-ising it - again fighting it using it - using the mechansim - not knowing how to
handle it - being the total effect of it
- Theta 4,3
- not handling it - just being it - not having it - not wanting it - suppressing it -
loving it - supporting it - being it, but small - having a little - not knowing how to
handle it - hating it - wants to be it - attracting it - taking it away - turning it
around - wanting it, but not getting it - getting it but not wanting it
Pre-OT: The guys that seemed to vanish yesterday are still there
as they are answering now.
(Last two answer.) 4,45
- hating her - being in a certain relationship to her
- trying to support her - to kill, suppress, fear her.. - getting her attention - 4,4
trying to smash her - trying to he handled by her - trying to remember has - not wanting
to have to do with her - admiration for her - worrying for her (her mother) - trying to
remember her to resolve her as a problem - trying to kill her - not to meet her - to be
with her - to know her - loving her (laughing) LFBD 4,25
- being interconnected between each other 4,35
- using it - thinking about it - not looking - not knowing - hating - trying to solve it -
being it - wondering about it - not wondering
- the wish to be separated and individually and not connected 4,35
- several are going up the bridge - some don't know what to do - one is in the hand of god
- having agreed on that 4,45
- made a postulate or more
- being Static 4,5
- thinking what to do
- coming to that solution to have a game
- thinking about what is necessary to have a game
- taking different beingnesses 4,6
- postulating to assume different beingnesses than Static
- deciding to be something certain
- 4,55 taking different roles
- forgetting
- don't handle it
- 4,6 being mixed up and it becomes complex
- not handled. Playing
- Pre-OT: Something happened it's different answers: losing something
- trying to get it back but forgot so can't get it back
- BE 4,7
- Theta - Static - MEST - Thought idea - Pody - Anti-MEST space - being confused - not be
- being god - being a child of God being a being - be but don't know what - being afraid
4,7 being a fighter being an opponent - being a postulate - being a sun - being a Black
Hole being nothing being always right - being a pain - being Theta - being a part of a
Thetan - being himself - being tired (laughs) - being an ocean - being true 4,65
R-Factor on ending up for today:
Pre-OT: Good! LFBD 4,5 This is very exhausting.
No! It's very interesting the answers and all what is connected with. 4,5 (smiles)
(EOS - 4,5 (2))
(Restart - 3,5 (2) - 28.6.88 - hunting needle)
Contact and TR 0 opened to all this and R-Factor we continue with PrPr 6:
Pre-OT: I have the impression that there is an "imagined tree
upside-down" and where it ends (sf) in the trunk (the top) there's one guy or
something holding the whole thing (sf).
Everything is connected into that: millions of beings connected into that: MEST,
Anti-MEST, Players, Connections, Cases It really looks like a "giant complex
Plug". Top? It could be a postulate or even god or Xenu... the (sf) top top guy
we ran into in the Black Org-Board.
Back PrPr 6:
- being fooled - not being fooled - there's no foolness - everything is ok - everything is
like it should be - no conditon, as nevertheless it doesn't matter - wondering - hating
3,4 - being effect - emotion 3,5
- gave up - used it - playing wondering - fighting - trying to destroy - not knowing what
to do - not caring what to do using it all - being manipulated and can't fight it -
helpless and sad - just a little piece: can't do anything - (general answer: very
lowtoned)
- some are popping out of the mass of Thetans and the rest are "mmmhhh"
in the background
- 3,5 F the ones popping out of the mass have more to do with her in PT. The rest not so
much, emotionally
- (sf) being in a game and having to play it and somehow all playing together but against
one another 3,6
- trying to play aligned (not against) but can't or these attempts are turned around and
this happens for the most of them, unknowingly, reactively, thinking this has to be like
this 3,75
the ones really totally being in the background. In the front is (2 other Pre-OTs)
and I get the answers from them basically and after that some "mmmhh"
from the background 3,65... (one of the both) is in a condition of really fighting me,
using all kinds of tricks, black PR, in trying to destroy me.... (other of the both) is
like a stone, very very heavy, nearly dead, very dark... ...(another Pre-OT) is in
the condition of having a problem, which is not his own problem 3,5
The rest, except the Players is in a condition of dependency on what the Players think,
feel as they push energies back and forth among the Players, but kind of being effect on
what the Players are doing.
- Black PR and 3P her regarding (other Pre-OT) 3,3 - not surviving - getting solutions -
the rest is acting automatically
- somehow each one depending on the other and fighting that and the more fighting, the
worse
- it can't be handled
- F it's like being one. All being one! 3,3
- not handled
- being in a "never ending action cycle"
- trying to end cycle, but on that trying, opening new cycles and so on and so forth 3,35
- ... (one of the other Pre-OTs) is trying to find more out-points about me to be herself
right and make me wrong and hating and fighting me very heavy, trying to take her space
and get rid of her, and if she could, she would kill me - many are involved in a native
way, at effect of what she is doing. So involved and enturbulated by that - others are
just not ising it - going totally effect of it - being used - god likes that (Pre-OT
mentioned above) is so nice effect of him. She can be easily controlled and he likes that.
She does what he wants her to do.
- searching out-points - can't be handled (the ones involved and wanting to) - don't know
what to do - don't look at it - it's already handled (god). Everything is handled very
well.
Don't you see that?
- being very interlocked, very connected and reacting on one another and being 3,5 more or
less effect and cause inside of this arrangement
- some think they are cause, but they are effect - some know they are effect and can't
handle it - some try to be cause - this has directly to do with the degree of PTS/SP they
are!!
- it's a big fight - being in a big fight 3,5
- most are losing - one is winning: God! - somehow winning, but then having the impression
of losing immediately again (one of the other Pro-OTs and a few else, who are PTS and
aware of the roller-coaster) - not wanting to play that
- 3,7 being more or less manipulated via control mechanisms. But the most of them are not
aware of it.
- Not handled. but basically wanting to break out of it
- Pre-OT: 3,8 I have the impression like there would be a wave of protest going along the "Tree"
against the fact of being controlled - god is in the condition of being a bit in doubt
whether he can hold it
- it's like if the Thetans involved in that, were trying to break out of something
- 4,0 trying to fight it, whatever it is, but the most are not aware
what they are fighting So they just want to pet out of the condition, but the motivation
in doing that is very different: (other Pre-OT) for example is trying to make me guilty
and is fighting me in the attempt of breaking out of that
- they are trying to fight in the direction where they think it comes from, (so they are
fighting each other - Pre-OTs comment) 3,7
- 3,75 being gradually separated and not-knowing - some are do low, that they don't even
know that they don't know
- trying to know what is not known - not trying to know because of fear knowing it and not
liking it - not knowing - knowing what the others don't know (God)
- more or less being effect of that what they don't know
- some try to know - some think they know, but they don't. so they don't even try to find
out 3,8 - some know and can't apply it or don't know what to do with what they know (one
of the other Pre-OTs)
- being dependent on what is not known
- would like to know, but don't know how to reach it
Pre-OTs comment: This is really on the various levels from very low to very high.
For example at very high, they don't know what is their basic postulate and they would
have to find it.
At very low for example, it would be: "well, I don't know", but it's
impossible to know. Like the last answer for 2. we have got: "Would like to know,
but don't know how to reach it".
It would fit with all levels. from highest to the lowest.
- being in a kind of mystery regarding the game
- not handled
- being used and using others in the game (PTS-SPness)
- being used and using others 3,85
- being in different states of Theta
- handled as good as possible, depending on the state they are in
- 3,9 not knowing regarding Cod, whether there is one or not, and so there's always a
mystery regarding that and not really knowing whether they were created or not
- trying to find out about that - not knowing exactly about that: is there really a god in
the very meaning, or what? (basically) - in doubt - believing 4,0
- fighting one another regarding god 4,1
- trying to prove there is god and that there is not god and this in different degrees of
believing
- thinking about god
- can't be handled, because god can't be measured. Can't be reached.
- being like a giant cluster
- 4,25 this must have been able to happen because of common agreement. They didn't
necessarily make it together, but LFBD 3,9 it must have something in common: the agreement
LFBD 3,65 It's a cluster in a higher harmonic! They don't have a mutual incident. But they
have a common agreement or Postulate, which can be connected, turned around, as the Thetans can be interlocked via the Postulate/agreement, 3,7 FBD 3,6
They have created god themselves and they forgot it. They just started and gave themselves
in the hands of god. 3,7 Something like that. It has to do with this Postulate and either
god turned it around and mis-used it They give up the responsibility for themselves to
God! LFED 3,5 Not for their creations. but about themselves! We just play and you (God)
care for us - Something like God is the cause for everything. - trying to remember what's
exactly what it is: very simple and very common 3,7 3,75 LFBD 3,6 3,7 Pre-OT thinking
about it LFBD 3,55 I'm very close, but I don't get it. It's like: Everything is God, so we
don't have to care as everything is God - everything is coming from God and will go to God
and everything in between is just an imagination from God, so nobody has to care! 3,8
- being dependent from God
- agreed to depend on God
- being fooled by God
- too late to handle it 3,9
- running in their own trap
- this could happen because of having made a Postulate that can be turned around easily
- Now being the fools of God
- trying to find the basic agreement to unravel it 4,0
- FBD 3,9 once they were free
- want to play a game
- now in the game
- tried to end the game, but in a positive way
- making postulates
- postulates regarding beingness 4,0
- being the Player and God is the Games Master who is controlling the game
- 4,15 they just played and got kept the rules and then he mis-used it 4,2
- being fooled by God
- trying to find out how he fooled them LFBD 3,9 He turned around the basic postulates and
used them against Thetans. It's like all Thetans said "I am" and he made
an addition to the postulates, like "A CHILD OF GOD", so you are a child
of God, Oh! Something like "I AM ME", and he messed up all these
postulates so everybody is "ME" and nobody really knows who he is, so
everybody is interlocked. It's not exactly that, but in that direction.
(Break - 3,8 (2))
(Restart - 3,8 (2) - hunting needle)
Continue FBD 3,75
PrPr 6
being dependent on one another
having to play together
there's something combining all together which is coming up now,
something separatedly which I will include now. (Pre-OT's comment)
3,75 creating the basis of this
having created something, which is out of control
now
trying to make the best out of it 3,7
being limited or defined
3,6 playing the role per definition, as chosen and given FBD 3,5
they all agreed upon everything, but it got turned around and used
against them and it's very tricky made, as it includes the basic purpose and this is just
slightly changed, so it creates an effect which is not wanted
they got fooled with their own postulates 3,35 - something was proved.
like: leading them to wrong conclusions and this went down-spiral getting more and more
complex
3,35 having decided it and because the decision got turned around they
have to hold onto that er otherwise, they would be wrong FBD 3,25 That's a vicious cycle.
Even if they looked at having been fooled, they'd be wrong! So either way, they are wrong
in attempting to be right. Pre-OT: Very tricky! 3,25
always trying to be right
3,1 losing his stable data, because in trying to be right, they could be
wrong and to be wrong means not to survive, so they have to be right 3,3 LFBD 3,1 They are
right in making others wrong. And here we have the PTS/SP mechanism again.
Pre-OT: I thought, one could come out of this, if he hay the attitude that
everybody is, or can be right, which would mean basically to grant beingness in a very
high level! Then I saw the mechanism of .... (other Pre-OT) making others wrong in the
attempt to be right, to survive.... (another Pre-OT) too In an attempt to be right! To
survive! (laughs) My God! Maybe it was a kind of cog! 2,95
But don't ask me whose! FED 2,8 This is very very basic this mechanism! It
fits totally to the PTS/SP mechanism! The SP is afraid, so he has to make the others wrong
to be right! All this time, otherwise he would be wrong!
F/N VGIs
EP for this PrPr 6
