De:	die.richter.gang@t-online.de
Enviado:	quinta-feira, 3 de Julho de 2008 08:39
Para:	ketern
Assunto:	[Aid4Mail Trial tag #112] Re: question

Hi, Francis,
 
1. yes, I was able to open up your mail. No, it didn't drive me nuts, because I was nuts already 
about the same subject. :-))). I've been harassed by these characters many times before, and only 
last month started to differentiate between them and myself. Exactly as you described, I had the 
same phenomena, resulting in irrational behaviour.
As an example, I wake up in the morning, an inner dialogue is already going on, like a planning, of 
how to talk to my husband about a simple thing. I get up, and start a fight with Martin that has no 
real reason. The poor guy doesn't know, what is going on, because - except in my universe, 
nothing has happened or is wrong. Same happens also before I phone someone or answer an 
email.
Another vector is my completely irrational fear of getting hurt in all possible life-circumstances.
Last month, while sitting in the car with Martin driving, one of these "inner dialogues" became so 
loud and crazy, that I finally was able to differentiate between myself and the "thoughts".
Of course I started poking around, and came to the conclusion that there were in fact several 
"entities", whom I call "The Nanny" (to make me cautious in anything that has to do with the body), 
"The Talkmaster", who "guides" me throughconversations, and probably a few more.
Your mail came at the right time, because it told me that the insanity was not only on my side :-))). I 
am still looking into it, trying to find the Why and Who, and your idea with the perfect circle guys 
sounds interesting. Still working on it.
 
2. Yes, those as well crossed my path in the past. My name for this was "the cemetary of thetans". 
I got that they were "stuck in a win", having reached successfully the EP of total failure. Some of 
them blew immedieately on the rehab of EPing the downspiral.
 
Love, Doro
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: ketern 
To: die.richter.gang@t-online.de 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:03 AM
Subject: question

Hope you been able to open it.
A question I have been meaning to put for a long time: for several times I encounter some kind 
of cemeteries of thetans, where lots of them were just “there”, unresponsives and not alive, 
just really existing.
They were apparently being kept by some “guardians” that seemed like holders but technically 
they weren’t since I recall one session I was able to handle a few of them with an added right 
that was “The right to try again”, and the guardians didn’t object to it. They considered 
themselves as really being dead and are very, very hard to handle since “there is nothing 
wrong” with them (like an inverted  serenity of beeingness). 
Have you ever found that?

ML
Francis